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Bell & Howell DR 7o 16mm

I'm in an awkward dilemma with a guy who bought this camera from me. He says its broken due to the fact that the camera is over wound.
Now i know nothing about the mechanics or parts and told him this ;and he said he knows very little about this model.
So i'm on a search for the truth. my question to you How can this be overwound with no film . Is it overwound like old watches ? is there a reasonable DIY fixor does this guy assume its broken and just trying to get his money back? thank you for any knowledge
Haley

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    haley dean Jan 14, 2009

    the solution is great advice. i didn't explain enough though that the camera was shipped and isn't in my posession to take it to a repair shop.
    i want to know if its possible to over wind this model and if so what part caused this to happen? does overwinding cause the camera to be unusable?
    it was sold without the accessories that the original has. this was the body and the three lenses only which doesn't make sense that it could be wound up without any film inside! if its a spring causing it to lockup, is it possible to be shown what part is causing this?

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    haley dean Jan 14, 2009

    i need someone who knows this camera modeland its functions to be able to get a solution because i don't have the camera in my possesion to take it for repair
    i'm trying to make sure that i didn't sell the camera broken to this guy who says itrs locked up in this state by being overwound..I'd just like to know if that's even possible without having all the parts that make it functional
    thanks
    haley

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    haley dean Jan 14, 2009

    jcdill hit that on the head. i did disclose that what is in the pictureis it. .this guysaid he didn't know much about the model;but the truth hurts that i did a rush job with it and should have been more detailed in my posting.thank you for your disclosure and time in researching that

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Hi!

The buyer has overwounded it and as a result the spring connected with roller has been broekn and it can be replaced easily.

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Hi,
I would definately state that you require it back before a refund is given, and that any film inside is not refundable. This is in line with most guarantees.

Whan (and if you get it back) take it to a professional repair shop, as it will most likely need to be taken apart to fix this. Some of these springs can be very large and vicious - so will easily slice bits of finger off or blind you. It is just not worth the risk. If you employ the services of an expert for repair, they will often give a guaantee that it is working. If that is the case - have them seal it, and you can then resell it under a guarantee.
This could be to the original buyer if you wish, but finish the refund first - otherwise it gets sticky with who pays for what etc.

Best of luck with this.

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You have to put film in it fir it to wind...hes just trying to get his money back from you

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You know what I think,
the camera can be overwound only for two reasons:
there was a film inside.
the buywer put a film inside and now the camera is overwound and he cannot pull out the film without exposing it to light.

In either case, if you sold through Internet you have to ask back the camera to inspect.

On Ebay you can challenge a refund , but it is difficult to prove that the buysr damaged an item, and usually the buyer wins.

Ask the buyer if he inserted a film , and tell him that in that case is his responsibility.
Tell the buyer not to touch the item if he has to send back to you, he can damage it more.
The most likely is that you get the camera back , and you have to take out the film, then you test , and eventually resell the camera to someone with some more brain.

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Hi see this video how you can  overwound with no film.
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=yZuCjQjIGxs

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Thank you for requesting me to help with your problem. However, I am not an expert in motion film cameras. I did some research on your problem and found that these cameras have a spring drive, and that they can indeed be overwound.

A responsible seller would determine the condition and state of the item before selling it and do their best to represent it accurately. If the seller made a mistake and sold something that later turned out to be broken, the buyer has a reasonable expectation that the seller will take the item back and refund the buyer's money. So that is what I recommend you do.

Since you know nothing about the mechanics or parts, if you try to service or repair this yourself, you may do more damage than good. I would try to sell it again, fully disclosing that it may have been overwound and is being sold "as is" for parts only. That way someone with more expertise in working with these cameras can make the best use of this camera.

Good luck.

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Http://www.advancecamera.com/repair
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I think he is trying to get his money back .still just get it checked at local repair center.and confirm the fault.

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