Question about PNY Verto GeForce FX 5200, (256 MB) PCI Graphic Card

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Card not allowing more then 640x480 and 4bit colors.

I recently got a 'hand-me-down' Dell 2400. I replaced the RAM and have put in a new DVD drive, and picked out this video card so that it would be usable for me and my school work - any maybe a couple of old [old] school games.

Anyway, I install the card/drivers [have done both off the CD and newest from website with a system restore] and although the card works fine during boot and while playing in the BIOS, the issue comes when XP loads. It switches back to the on-board, and when I try to set the Geforce as the "Primary" card I can only get very low, unusable settings.

After what I have researched my thoughts are that the stock power supply isn't enough: 200w. Looking at newegg [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133233&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-] specs I am guessing that the 200w power supply isn't enough for the card[?].

So my question is am I right in assueming the power supply is the issue here?

I don't mind investing in a replacement, as the recommened one still keeps me within my budjet on this computer [not spending more then $200 bucks]. I just would like to ask someone who would know better then me if this is the issue.

Spec:

Card trying to use: NY VCGFX522PEB Geforce FX 5200 256mb 128-bit DDR PCI

In Dell 2400:

P4 2.4gig
1gig ram
XP pro
200w power supply

Not sure what other specs needed.

thanks!

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  • ryb Jan 14, 2009

    Good call.

    The only options I have for the VGA in BIOS are "on-board" or "auto", the latter I am assuming picks whatever is on the PCI first [and this is it's default and current setting].

    I did a start up with everything unplugged put the HD and the new Video card and it is still not fully working.

    Could it really just be a dead card then? I think I am still within the time in which I could get a replacement - should I give that a try before I invest money into a new power supply?

    Thank you for the quick response.


  • ryb Jan 14, 2009

    I wish that I did have a friends computer, or any other to test it on.

    Thanks again, I think I am going to check into getting another of the same card. Even taking it into somewhere and having a techy install it [the new one], I would hate it if I were the one that touched the card the wrong way.

    Looking around it seems that the power supply is somewhat of a joke on these systems and I imaigne I would have to get another when I do get that second HD [Already it's supporting 1HD, CD, DVD/CD-RW and everything use it takes to keep a computer going], thus making the power supply something that I might just have to **** up and get.

  • ryb Jan 15, 2009

    Found my fix -

    So after everything I have done the past couple of days to get this to work, it all leads back to just not trying all the steps. The solution to my problem: Go into the Hardware/Device Manager and disable the On-Board card that way [along with having it PCI as default in the BIOS]. I was assuming that because the card was installed the Windows would use the PCI Video card as it's default, and that was not the case. It was still forcing the On-Board to take over.

    I feel silly...

    btw - I also upgraded my Power Supply anyway, I am going to need it for the size of HD I am going to want to upgrade to. If this was also part of the issue I cannot say, I am not going to put in the old one to check. But the card does require a power supply of atleast 250w, and from what I read around it was a good idea to upgrade to the 330w one anyway.


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If you have the option to disable on-board VGA on BIOS do it for test.

To check if you have enough power please try to boot with your CD/DVD dirves and extra HDD off.

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  • ex-lunatico Jan 14, 2009

    should I give that a try before I invest money into a new power supply?





    I think that is better to double check your card, with everything
    unplugged but HDD, it should work. Anyway 200w PSU tight to your
    system... Can you get a PSU form a fiend for tests?

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