Question about Water Heaters

1 Answer

Burner wont stay lit

I have a kenmore "power miser 9 " gas water heater. my basement had about 2-3 inches of standing water on the floor from snow melting ect. now my pilot light wouldnt stay on. so i bought a new "thermocouple unit and installed it,now the pilot will stay on but when i turn the thermostat knob on and to desired setting it starts up for about 3 seconds then goes out ,same with pilot light. what could be going on? the only other things i havent checked is,the sediment trap on the gas line,the burner orifice and the gas control valve,which i dont know how to check that.any ideas? my vent screen is clear.
thank you for your time
wally

Posted by on

  • lowrunner Jan 14, 2009

    ok thank you very much ill check those 2 things
    your reply is much appreciated.


  • lowrunner Jan 14, 2009

    when the burner and pilot light goes out, i can still hear the gas flowing,so what would that be?

×

1 Answer

  • Level 2:

    An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

    All-Star:

    An expert that got 10 achievements.

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

    Sergeant:

    An expert that has over 500 points.

  • Expert
  • 359 Answers

ONE THING COMES TO MIND AS YOU SAY YOU HAVE ALREADY CHANGED T/C IF YOU ARE SURE YOU POSITIONED THE THERMOCOUPLE IN EXACT SAME SPOT ,THE SEDIMENT TRAP GOOD CK AS MOISTURE COULD HAVE GOTTEN INTO LINE THIS WOULD CAUSE LIKE SYMPTOM ALSO A ELEVATED GAS PRESSURE COULD CAUSE THIS ON START UP ALSO THE THERMOCOUPLE WORKS OFF MILLI-AMP TO TELL THE VALVE TO STAY OPEN SO MAKE SURE THE THREADS ARE CLEAN FREE OF MOISTURE AND GOOD AND TIGHT OR IF ALL THIS IS GOOD COULD HAVE BAD VALVE BUT CK THESE FIRST

Posted on Jan 14, 2009

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

1 Answer

How to clean air intake screen on kenmore power miser 6 hot water heater


Kenmore is AO Smith.
Set this brand water heater on bricks for ez access to arrestor screen located on bottom.
Air intake located on bottom of unit, and should be accessible without removing combustion parts. Use feather duster, or compressed air.
Copy following links for specific illustrations and information:
Same information also shows in product manual .... and you didn't save that, but next time for sure.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Flame-trap-inspection-325.jpg
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermocouple.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-maintain-water-heater.html

Sep 17, 2012 | Water Heaters

1 Answer

Cannot get the pilot light to stay lit. Replaced the thermocouple and the problem still exists


Burner parts need yearly cleaning, air intake needs periodic cleaning, burner parts cannot be exposed to trace amounts of chemical without damaging parts, no water should be dripping down from vent, vent should be checked for updraft, ample combustion air is required especially in closed basements, tight houses, and hot attic, bleed gas line to remove air, check that gas control thermostat is functioning.
Open following links for pilot light help:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html#troubleshoot
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Pilot-light-will-not-stay-lit.pdf

Aug 07, 2011 | Rheem 50 Gallon FVR NATGAS Water Heater...

1 Answer

I have a Kenmore Econominder water heater. Model 153-332040 40 gal natural gas/direct vent WH. The last several days it starts up and runs for about 10 seconds 1-2 times before it stays on and heats up...


Water heater burner assembly and combustion chamber probably needs clean and maintenance.
I suggest calling sears service 1-800 469-4663 or plumber.

I'm on Sears/ American/ Rheem/ Reliance etc gas water heater websites most days, and read gas water heater manuals continually.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10153_12605?keyword=kenmore+power+miser+9+40+gallon+gas+water+heater+gas
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_12605_Appliances_Water+Heaters_Natural+Gas

Most people don't fix air conditioning without knowledge going in, but people think water heaters are simpler, because water heaters were simpler a few years ago.
Today, gas water heaters require testing equipment, and specialized tools, plus replacement parts.

Possible problems include: Improper fuel-air mixture, dirty air intake, venting problems, gas control valve problems, air in gas line, low gas pressure, dirty combustion parts, Water condensate dripping on burner, chemicals stored inside same room. Service technician will review all these things during troubleshoot, and you can watch technician and glean information for keeping water heater working longer than warranty.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html

If repairs are going to cost more than $400, then install new gas water heater yourself same day:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html

Upvote the help.
And take advantage of fixya expert assistance live.
For a price, expert works with you while you work on water heater or any do-it-yourself project.
Fixya is always less expensive than a service call.

May 23, 2011 | Water Heaters

1 Answer

I have a Kenmore Power Miser 12 gas water heater that the pilot light keeps going out. The water heater has been in service for 45 months. The pilot light has a blue flame with some orange flame flares...


check and or replace the thermal coupling. the coupling goes into the main gas control, if the coupling is bad it will shut off gas supply. as a safety measure.

Mar 09, 2011 | Water Heaters

1 Answer

Government safety!!! here is how it works, water heater wont stay lit idiot washing parts with gas near water heater wont blow up. its like gun laws protect everyone from idiots !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I see you posed a complaint about government regulation of gas water heaters under Reliance electric water heater.

You should have been here at fixya for the guy yelling about his water heater not working after he painted the basement floor.
That dang government-mandated FVIR tripped and it saved a flashover.
It saved his life, and he didn't appreciate it, because he doesn't know how to read.
He thinks his world experience is all that needs to be known.
He never rose to management and never had to make long term decisions that affect other folks, and so he doesn't care about others.

Now if you didn't do your reading before-n-after buying a gas water heater, you won't know you're supposed to take apart and clean your combustion area and burner each year to prevent problems.
If you weren't aware of air intake located on bottom of water heater, then you might not know to set your water heater on bricks so you can easily clean the screen.
If you didn't read information and ask question from qualified folks before buying your water heater, you wouldn't know that Bradford White has a customer-resettable FVIR, while most other companies require you to buy parts and/or call a plumber.
If you don't read product information at Lowes, you might not be aware that new Whirlpool water heaters come with customer-resettable FVIRs.

If you don't read, then you don't know what FVIR stands for.

So let me tell you what FVIR stands for: When I was 27 in the tile business in Chicago, 1977, my brother and two helpers were laying VA tile in a basement using old black mastic. My brother stepped out. The whole basement blew up. It killed those boys dead. My brother missed it by a minute.
They were my friends.
You probably didn't read the paper that day to discover that black mastic was petroleum-based and was ignited by the water heater. Few years later the government banned use of that mastic because people were getting burned and killed all the time. Laying black mastic was like sitting in gasoline.

Those boy's families never forgot that lesson.
Maybe it's time for you to start reading and assume responsibility instead of repeating what you heard on TV.

Jan 09, 2011 | Reliance & 50gal Electric Water Heater

1 Answer

Gas water heater burner wont stay lit


This is a major problem with Kenmore power miser 6, 9, and 12's - we purchased a Power Miser 6 in Nov. 2006 and have had 5 service calls in two years - we are on our 6th call now - Go to http://baheyeldin.com/technology-in-society/mistaken-identity-help-with-kenmore-water-heater.html or Complaintsboard.com and you will see multiple complaints on these models. We had Sears out days after we purchased the water heater, and had parts replaced, then more problems in April 2007 - It worked ok until Nov, 2008 and now it has gone out 3 times. We were told it is lint collecting on the screen that sits under the burner (difficult to get to) - we made a vacume attachment out of PCV pipe (like the one the repairman had) and vacumed the screen when the pilot light wouldn't stay lit - that is what they told us was the problem - but this time, the vacuming isn't working - Ash also builds up on the pilot light burner which has to be removed - you can't replace the thermal coupler without replacing the entire burner unit in this model - In short, if you can get your money back and buy a more reliable model, do it! Sears sold us a maintenance agreement after they had come out 3 times ($290), and still we go for 2-5 days without hot water waiting for them to come out and not fix our water heater. They also told us we should build a platform elevated off the floor to increase oxygen and decrease dust - funny our last model was still working at over 10 years and never had an issue in the same location! Sears installed the water heater, and should have installed it on a platform if that was what was needed. Also, there was no warning about having to vacume the screen (UNDER the heater - very difficult) - when we purchased this model or we wouldn't have bought it - Kenmore water heater repair line now tells you to try scrubbing the screen - but who wants to do this every month??? I can't tell you how inconvenient this has been - Looks like there was a class action suit against LOWE's which included the AO Smith water heaters (which is who built the power miser heaters) - no class action suit yet against Kenmore - This has been a nightmare and at the websites I listed, you will see many more such complaints, and some creative solutions...but I doubt any will work for long. Good luck.

Jan 14, 2009 | Water Heaters

1 Answer

I have a kenmore "power miser 9 " gas water heater. my basement had about 2-3 inches of standing water on the floor from snow melting ect. now my pilot light wouldnt stay on. so i bought a new...


The problem is the humidity. Get rid of the water and get some ventilation in there plus heat and the pilot light will work once again.

Jan 14, 2009 | Water Heaters

8 Answers

Gas water heater kenmore model pilot will not stay lite


I have the same problem. Water heater operates on a very simple principle. of thermo-mechanical feed-back and response. In my case, I have a Kenmore Power Miser 6, NG heater with an electronic pilot ignition system. The heater is just over one year old and last month (conveniently just after the 12 month service warranty expired) the pilot light started extinguishing on a very regular basis. I find it interesting that the very problem I am experiencing, is happening to other Kenmore owners (victims). The solution can be found in replacing one of two possible components; the pilot assembly or the gas valve manifold. The price of DIY pilot assembly replacement is approx. $60 . The valve component is significantly higher. Water heaters are designed and built to provide years of trouble-free reliable service. This is the first Kenmore product I have owned. From a customer perspective, with regard to product performance, Sears/Kenmore needs to take a strong look at their supplier quality. Oh, by the way, contacting Sears for remedial relief only managed to frustrate and infuriate me. You see, I am in Quality for a world-class aircraft company. I understand what ethical steps are required to satisfy a valued customer. I plan on ripping out the defective unit this weekend and replacing it with a reliable Home depot special. At least with HD, if the heater fails to perform , I can return it. Hey Sears in Chicago, don't come crying to the consumer when you are looking for the trendy "bail out". Signed- "Burned Out" in La Habra, California.

Nov 08, 2008 | Water Heaters

Not finding what you are looking for?
Water Heaters Logo

Related Topics:

182 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Water Heaters Experts

Steven Foerst
Steven Foerst

Level 1 Expert

52 Answers

Mike Cairns
Mike Cairns

Level 3 Expert

3053 Answers

Brad Brown

Level 3 Expert

13569 Answers

Are you a Water Heater Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...