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My water softener has stopped working . No power can't hear the timer outlet ok

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Check the wall transformer, they go bad often

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Water heater stopped working flame kicks on but dont stay on


1) Copy following link for American/AO Smith intellivent gas control valve troubleshoot:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-gas-water-heater.html#intellivent

Sorry earlier answer mistaken model number for Rheem tankless instead of American power vent with intellivent gas control valve.

2) Reset gas control valve, using troubleshoot manuals on link above.
Check that outlet has 120 volts and 80% rated voltage.
Check that outlet has correct polarity, and is grounded.
Check that ground is connected to manifold tube under the gas control valve.
Install whole house surge protector to protect appliances with electronic controls. Simple power outage can knock out gas control valves.

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Laing model 330 Pump not working-delay in hot water delivery.In the past,a vibration occurred when cold water running above the pump.Can this be repaired.Power operating to pump. Thanks, mel ross


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1) The pump is not working? Does the pump make a noise? if pump is not working full-time, it can cause delay in arrival.
If pump motor is suspect, and outlet has power, then check override switch located on timer. Set override to Timer, move some of the trippers outward, then manually rotate timer dial until pump turns ON.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/IMG_9325-grundfos-timer-800.jpg
If no noise is detected, or noise stops and starts, or seems strained, or if pump is hot, then pump motor may have burned out.

2) If pump is working, and makes noise like a humming sound, and pump motor is not hot, but hot water is not circulating, then unplug pump so it will not overheat and burn up.
Disassemble the pump and cross-over piece. Clean piping with white vinegar or CLR. Do not soak in CLR or it will damage seals. Rinse parts thoroughly. Reassemble and see if problem is resolved.
If pump is vibrating, then suspects include sediment and/or air inside line, and this can be resolved by cleaning as described. Also install air vent to increase life of pump.

3) Other causes for hot water delay at faucet are crossover.
Crossover can be caused by bad single-handled faucet cartridge, and/or by clogged-or-failed check valve on cross-over piece on grundfos.
This type of problem lets cold water enter hot line, and causes delay in arrival of hot water. Clean-or-replace the grundfos cross-over piece, and replace bad faucet cartridge.
Open following link for testing instructions:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html

Resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-recirculation-system.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Troubleshoot-recirculation.pdf

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Sep 17, 2011 | Laing Thermotech Autocirc Undersink...

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Pump not working-delay in hot water delivery.In the past,a vibration occurred when cold water running above the pump.Can this be repaired.Power operating to pump. Thanks, mel ross


Question not 100% clear.

1) The pump is not working? Does the pump make a noise? if pump is not working full-time, it can cause delay in arrival.
If pump motor is suspect, and outlet has power, then check override switch located on timer. Set override to Timer, move some of the trippers outward, then manually rotate timer dial until pump turns ON.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/IMG_9325-grundfos-timer-800.jpg
If no noise is detected, or noise stops and starts, or seems strained, or if pump is hot, then pump motor may have burned out.

2) If pump is working, and makes noise like a humming sound, and pump motor is not hot, but hot water is not circulating, then unplug pump so it will not overheat and burn up.
Disassemble the pump and cross-over piece. Clean piping with white vinegar or CLR. Do not soak in CLR or it will damage seals. Rinse parts thoroughly. Reassemble and see if problem is resolved.
If pump is vibrating, then suspects include sediment and/or air inside line, and this can be resolved by cleaning as described. Also install air vent to increase life of pump.

3) Other causes for hot water delay at faucet are crossover.
Crossover can be caused by bad single-handled faucet cartridge, and/or by clogged-or-failed check valve on cross-over piece on grundfos.
This type of problem lets cold water enter hot line, and causes delay in arrival of hot water. Clean-or-replace the grundfos cross-over piece, and replace bad faucet cartridge.
Open following link for testing instructions:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html

Resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-recirculation-system.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Troubleshoot-recirculation.pdf

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Sep 17, 2011 | Laing Thermotech Autocirc Undersink...

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My water heater is leaking and only 4 years old. Will the use of a water softener void the warranty?


The warranty should not be void by using water softener, BUT read product manual.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-manufacturers.html

1) First thing: Why is water heater leaking? Where is the leak?
http://waterheatertimer.org/Leaking-water-heater.html
For example, if you have electric water heater leaking from element, then replace element.
Replace leaking TP valve.
If water is leaking down vent pipe, and combustion chamber rusted out, then vent problem must be corrected.
These are not covered by warranty.
If tank is rusted out, then read below.

2) If water heater is rusted out after 4 years, you might have stray current corrosion.
This happens when hot and cold pipes are not connected together with a ground wire, and/or if cold water pipe is not grounded to earth.
This might not be covered by warranty.

3) Read water heater instruction manual for advisories.
Tanks rust out when anode rod is depleted. Softened water depletes anode rod faster.
Instruction manual says to check anode rod each year.
Checking anode rod is like checking oil on an engine. If oil was never checked and engine burned up, the manufacturer will not honor the warranty.
If anode rod is depleted, and tank is rusted out, the warranty might not cover the rusted tank since owner was supposed to check for anode depletion.

4) Anode rods can also be covered with calcium deposits and stop working.
This night not have anything to do with water softener, but anode stops working and tanks rusts out.
In any case the owner's manual probably says to check anode rod to prevent leaking from rusted tank
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html

Sep 07, 2011 | Water Heaters

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Rheem Power Vent 50 gas water heater will not come out of vacation mode! Have tried turning on and off, resetting and following directions on the side of the tank. Will not come out of Vacation Mode. Had a...


Water inside tank-type water heater can remain hot for some time.
That's one advantage of well-insulated tank-type water heaters.
http://waterheatertimer.org/9-ways-to-save-with-water-heater.html

Power outage can be related to failure of gas control.
Unplug stuff when power goes out. And then plug back in after power is restored.
Water heaters with electronics are not protected from surge.
Electronics can blow out during and after power outage. For example nearby lightning strike will cause current to run along household wires. With ordinary power outage, once power is restored, the surge can affect all kinds of electronic circuitry such as timers, water heaters, water softener, treadmill etc.

Sounds like you have intellivent gas control valve:
Open following link to identify gas control, and download typical manual, and download intellivent service manual with troubleshooting, error codes, etc.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-adjust-temperature-on-water-heater.html#intelli

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I have a Reliance 501 electric water heater ... Everything works great but below the water out. Be rusty? How can I fix it?


The tank is rusting. Replace anode rod or replace water heater.
Once the anode rod depletes, then the tank starts to rust.
IF you can replace the anode rod, it will stop rusting, and then flush the rust out of water heater.
This might buy more life with same tank, but old anode rods are pretty solid and even impact wrench might not loosen it up.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html#flush

Loosen anode rod on new tank before installing, and then inspect every 1-3 years, and 1-2 years if water is softened.
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Water pressure gets very low . GE GNWH38F FILTRATION SYSTEM. HELP !


This generally indicates the outlet manifold on softener is partially plugged. This needs to be removed and either cleaned or replaced.
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I have a 50 galon smartwaterheater that came with the home and im trying to figure out how to work the gray timer box on wall


The gray timer box saves power by turning the power off and on to the water heater. Most that I have seen have a 1/4 inch screw head that you loosen and tighten to change the time it runs and shuts off. Basically operates like the outlet timers you use from a wall outlet.
Installed one for my mom over 25 years ago, still working.

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