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Replaced HD on ibook Clamshell, now can't boot

I have a G3 366MHz Firewire Clamshell with 2656MB RAM that had a 10G HD when I bought it.

I was given a 30G hard drive (it came out of a compaq with a bad screen), so with the help of my husband and, we decided to upgrade my hard drive. Success! I installed OS9 and besides having an issue with Internet Explorer (not my favorite program btw) I did install the updates and made sure the firmware was up to date, which it was. On to installing 10.3. I put in the first CD and everything installed as it should, but when it restarted, it never asked for the second install CD and got hung up (kernel panics galore!). I fought and fought with it ~ I could only boot OS9 from the CD. I even tried to reinstall OS 10.3 and it kept getting hung up. Out of pure desperation (this was my ultimate goal anyways) I used target disk mode and installed Tiger (since my ibook doesn't have a dvd drive). Everything installed great, and I got it to boot up after SEVERAL hard restarts, and mostly in safe mode only. I ran the utility disk and everything checked out ok, and it seemed to be running good so I took the next step of installing the updates, to bring it up to 10.4.11. It froze right in the middle, and kept giving me kernel panics upon restart. After searching and searching for the answers, I finally decided to zero out the hard drive, and start over with a fresh install of Tiger. Now my ibook doesnt boot at all ~ I get a flashing folder/? icon or sometimes I get a "No" symbol. I put it back into target mode, and my other Mac sees the hard drive just fine. One thing I did notice is the folders don't have the icons on them (ie: the systems folder has the blue X). Needless to say, I am pretty dissapointed =( I don't want to reinstall the old hard drive, but right now I am at a loss.

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  • Mercuryc78 Jan 12, 2009

    I did zero out the hard drive to cover any bad sectors and re installed tiger. Thats when I got the flashing folder/? icon. This morning I reinstalled tiger via TDM and I got the ibook to start up, but it crashed soon after. I think I figured out way: I was putting the iBook in TDM and installing from my G4, which messed up the perssions (I think, since the system profiler had my G4 at the top) So I tried using TDM the other way, putting my G4 as the host, and I started up my ibook while holding down the option key (so I could boot from the DVD in the G4's drive) and it never showed the DVD, so I am at a loss. I had panther running on it before, so I guess I will try to reinstall it now, and see if I can get it up and running. I really want tiger though, so any help is great appreicated! I will keep you posted.

  • Mercuryc78 Jan 12, 2009

    Only OSX

  • Mercuryc78 Jan 12, 2009

    I thought it was able to, as long as it had a firewire port?

  • Mercuryc78 Jan 13, 2009

    I have 256MB of RAM. I have since reinstalled Panther, and its still giving me trouble, so I think I am defeated and will reinstall the original 10G HD =(

  • Martin Buck
    Martin Buck May 11, 2010

    Are you running OS9 as well as OSX?
    Did you erase the 30G hard drive before installing the system?
    Try running 'First Aid' in 'Disc Utility'
    The hard drive may have damaged sectors which will throw up all sorts of problems.



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Try downloading mac ox 10.4

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I think you will have trouble running Tiger without more memory.  I have various macs of various ages and not had success with less than 384 meg of ram to run Tiger. 

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You should make sure you repartitioned and reformat the drive before you start.  Used drives can have left over data and errors that are not gotten rid of when you just do an erase.  There is also a special boot partition and driver that are needed to boot Mac OS 9 so if you did not format it with this partition you will have to go back and start over.  You can put all the right files on the drive and it even appears to be bootable to the startup system preference panel but it will never boot without the OS 9 driver partition.  
Boot off of the OS X installer disk then go into the disk utility (it is under a menu on the second or third window in the installer).  In the disk utility select the hardware designation for the drive (it will have the drive manufacturer and model (it is above the volume name) It will be something like 698.6 gig ST39458blahblah  (a Seagate drive with a formatted capacity just under 700gig) select that and go to the partition panel. (the partition panel does not show if you have the volume selected rather than the disk hardware)  Select "1 partition" in the Volume Scheme popup menu.  (2 might be a good choice if you are going to dual boot between OS X and OS 9 but that is beyond the scope of these instructions. Do more research if you want to do that.)  Click on Options and make sure that Apple Partition Scheme is used.  (GUID is for Intel Macs and Master Boot Record is for Windows.)  Then go to the Erase panel You will note there that there is a checkbox to put on the OS9 drivers.  If you choose the volume name this option is not present.  Check the box erase and quit Disk Utility and go on with the installation.  If this step is not done first there is no way (I know of as a 20+ year mac geek) to at least safely do it after the fact.  It should be formatted Mac OS X Extended (journaling is optional)

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The Clamshell iBook 366 doesn't officially support Tiger, but can usually be installed using 'XPostFacto'. (You can get it here
It's open source software but you still might find some aspects of Tiger don't work.

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    Martin Buck Jan 12, 2009

    How much RAM have you installed? OSX needs a minimum of 256M.


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