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Woods 59402 timer wires identical to Intermatic GM40, with same ratings and dip-switch settings.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GM40-timer.html

Here is specific wiring diagram per your request, showing 240Volt input controlling two 120Volt outlets.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/GM40-wiring-240v-120-volt-5.jpg
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html

Keep in mind that with 240Volt, both hot wires coming from breaker box carry 120Volt each, with 240Volt potential across both hot leads.
Each 120Volt Hot from breaker box, also carries 120Volt potential to Neutral or ground wire.
So the 240Volt wires from breaker box can supply the Hot for a 240Volt circuit, but the circuit must also have a neutral wire to complete 120Volt circuit.

Be mindful that timer is not 2-channel, so both outlets are controlled by same timing schedule.
If you want two different schedules for the outlets, then buy a 2-channel timer like Intermatic ET1125. Wiring for ET series remains similar to illustration link above.

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Make sure you don't have loose wire on the circuit breaker or neutral busbar inside breaker box.
Move wires to another same-size breaker to eliminate breaker as suspect.
Make sure that only copper wire is inserted under terminal screw plate at timer, and no insulation is under screw plate. Check that stranded wire and solid wire are not on same terminal screw, and that wire gauges are same so you don't have #8 and #10 under same screw plate.

Some of the new generation box timers from Woods and GE run fast and slow.
The clock motor is not connected directly to voltage from breaker, but instead the power is routed through electronics so the installer can select different voltages. Some models automatically detect line voltage.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html
Intel was working on the speed problem for GE in 2010, but I don't know the result.
The speed-reliability problem is fairly common, and continues since I received another e-mail about the issue a few weeks ago, and I'm certainly not first on the list to receive reports.

Possible cause:
Clock motors and all analog motors rotate a certain speed based on electrical winding and on electrical hertz or Hz. Hertz is the number of cycles per second that the electrical wave oscillates. Electricity is a wave, and Hertz is the wavelength. This wavelength is regulated at the power station, although there is a move to relax strict adherence to specific wavelengths to save money.
In the US, 60 Hz is standard, and you can see that number printed on electrical devices like your TV.
In Australian, 50 Hz is standard. For example, a 50 Hz motor would run different speed in the US.

I don't know if Hz is the speed-problem cause, or if Woods makes timers to meet the different Hz markets.

The fact that you got two timers with same problem makes me think there could be a mix-up in the product shipment, or simply a bad batch of timers. I've tested these timers and found them to be made much cheaper than predecessor time pieces like Intermatic GM40 electronic series.

I recommend Intermatic mechanical timers for pool pumps instead of the cheaper-made Woods and GE electronic timers. The clock motor is wired directly to power source, and replacement parts are available. Plus the mechanical timers are not as vulnerable to product failure and power surge.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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Make sure you don't have loose wire on the circuit breaker or neutral busbar inside breaker box.
Move wires to another same-size breaker to eliminate breaker as suspect.
Make sure that only copper wire is inserted under terminal screw plate at timer, and no insulation is under screw plate. Check that stranded wire and solid wire are not on same terminal screw, and that wire gauges are same so you don't have #8 and #10 under same screw plate.

Some of the new generation box timers from Woods and GE run fast and slow.
The clock motor is not connected directly to voltage from breaker, but instead the power is routed through electronics so the installer can select different voltages. Some models automatically detect line voltage.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html
Intel was working on the speed problem for GE in 2010, but I don't know the result.
The speed-reliability problem is fairly common, and continues since I received another e-mail about the issue a few weeks ago, and I'm certainly not first on the list to receive reports.

Possible cause:
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In the US, 60 Hz is standard, and you can see that number printed on electrical devices like your TV.
In Australian, 50 Hz is standard. For example, a 50 Hz motor would run different speed in the US.

I don't know if Hz is the speed-problem cause, or if Woods makes timers to meet the different Hz markets.

The fact that you got two timers with same problem makes me think there could be a mix-up in the product shipment, or simply a bad batch of timers. I've tested these timers and found them to be made much cheaper than predecessor time pieces like Intermatic GM40 electronic series.

I recommend Intermatic mechanical timers for pool pumps instead of the cheaper-made Woods and GE electronic timers. The clock motor is wired directly to power source, and replacement parts are available. Plus the mechanical timers are not as vulnerable to product failure and power surge.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Back-of-WH40-2b.jpg

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Fixya answers questions about other people's products.

I specialize in timers.
Intermatic is changing their product line
I suggest you download the manual:
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/et104c%20-%20english.ashx

The manual is generic across all the ET100 series products.
The manual does not describe individual models.
The instructions are on the timer door.
Look for the clock voltage.
The clock voltage tells the story of your timer model.

NOW lets say your clock voltage is 120V.
I believe you suspect the clock voltage is 120V.

To make this timer work with your 240V cable, there are 2 methods

Method 1) To meet code, run a white wire from nearby 120V receptacle.
This is a Neutral wire.
Connect the Neutral to terminal 1
Connect one leg from the 240V cable (1 of the 240V wires) to terminal 2 and that will complete the 120V circuit and the clock will run.
This is true because each leg of a 240V circuit is actually 120V, and only when the two legs are combined do they produce the 240V circuit

Method 2) Connect bare ground wire to terminal 1 and to grounding screw
The bare wire connects to the Neutral busbar in the main breaker box, so it will complete the 120V circuit just as described above.
This is not code, but your clock will operate.
Then connect one leg from the 240V cable to the terminal 2

IF your clock is 240 V, then connect both legs of the 240V cable to terminals 1 and 2

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Here is a link that shows exact wiring:
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When wiring the T-103, steps 1-2-3 are true for 120V or 240V installation:
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The following step is true for 120V Load
4) if Load is 120V, then white wire from Load connects to terminal A
The following steps are true for 240V Load
5) Only the neutral wire connects to terminal A as described in (1
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