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Camera flash problem (Nikon)

I use a Nikon D80. I have tried setting the camera menu so the Speedlight SB 600 flash works off camera without the in-built flash working. Thus far I have had no luck. Can you help me please??

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  • pturnill Jan 07, 2009

    My Speedlight SB 600 is of camera being used wirelessly, the in built flash is up but firering when it shouldn't.



    pturnill

  • pturnill Jan 07, 2009

    Hi randy320sgi,



    Thank you for your thoughts but after reading through what you have said and what the manual tells me, the built-in flash does not switch off when in the M,P,S and A modes. It will only switch off in the other AUTO modes. I am now at a loss!!



    pturnill

  • Randy Wheatley
    Randy Wheatley May 11, 2010

    pturnill,

    Do you mean it still pops up while trying to use the Speedlight? Or are you trying to use it remotely? You switched to flash settings correct?

    rnay320sgi

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Ok,
try to set the menu item for Auto FP to ON (it works in P,S, A, and M modes only) that will activate the Highspeed Sync when you are using the SB-600 flash unit, set the flash mode so the indicator shows the off position (the line thru the lightning bolt symbol) on the top inidcator menu in the its next to the red eye redution icon that will keep the built-in flash off even if you need it in low light. hope that works for you.
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