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Posted on Jan 07, 2009

Removed burners for cleaning, flame erratic

After removing, cleaning, and replacing burners, flame is wanting to kick back through air adjustment holes behind the control knobs.

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I don't think you "seated" the burners correctly where they go into the knobs. Get up under the knobs, look up and you'll see what I mean.

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