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Kenmore bottom mount fridge. The freezer seems to fine- at least the ice is still frozen. The fan is blowing cold air into the freezer. The upper part is just below room temperature and I cannot detect air movement into the area.

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  • jack_wear Jan 07, 2009

    That was helpful in that I'm at least starting to look in the right area. But there is little frost in the freezer, finger nail thickness near the bottom. No other frost can be seen looking thru the plastic air vent in the freezer. The door seals are good and the defrost timer seems to be ok (the red button is turning).

    Any other thoughts? Thanks for you help!

  • jack_wear Jan 07, 2009

    Thanks! The valve is open but no air flow from it. Also there is no air flow into the crisper. So I assume there has to be a frost/ice buildup between the fridge and ice box. I will remove the backwall in the freezer and see if I can detect where the problems lies, even though I can't see any ice looking through the plastic vent in the freezer.

    Question- is this a defrost problem or something else? Thanks for all your help- I'm finally learning how a fridge works!

  • ghistrop Jan 08, 2009

    I have the same problem. I by-passed the thermostat to see if that was it, but no. I can hear the fan running but no cold air is coming out into the fridge but freezer is working fine. I think the pipe from the cooling coil is plugged with ice or dirt so I'll try that next.

  • jack_wear Jan 09, 2009

    Replaced the defrost thermostat and that fixed the problem.

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Look in the back of the freezer, there will probably be a metal panel with a plastic vent on top.

Look through the vents in the metal panel, and you should see the shiny metal fins of the evaporator. If the fins or the vents are plugged with frost, that is your problem. The freezer will stay cold because a small amount of cold air will be forced through the frost but that will not be enough to make it up to the refrigerator portion. You can defrost the unit by removing the metal panel and allowing the frost to melt. Careful use of a hairdryer can speed up this process. This will likely be a temporary fix. The root cause of excessive frost can be caused by a bad door seal or a defective defrost circuit.

First check that the door seal is good by closing the door on a dollar bill at several points around the door, both on the freezer and refidgerator door. If you can pull the bill out with no resistance, the door is not making a good seal. Inspect the seal and make sure there isn't anything stopping the door from closing such as food, or a shelf not pushed in all the way.

If the door seal is good, the defrost system is likely defective. The defrost system has three main parts, the defrost heater, thermostat, and timer. If either one of the parts fails, the freezer will plug up with frost every few weeks. If you can troubleshoot this by manually starting the defrost cycle. Let me know if you would like this procedure.

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  • J Mood Jan 07, 2009

    Usually when the frost is a problem, it is thicker than a fingernail. It is possible there is more frost behind that panel that you cannot see, so removing that panel is the only way to be sure.

    Another possibility is the thermostat in the refrigerator. On most of these models, there is an air duct from the freezer to the top of the refrigerator. A flap in that duct opens and closes to regulate the refrigerator temperature. I attached a couple pictures of this flap so you can see the location and how it operates. The top is flap open and the bottom is flap closed. If your fridge is room temperature, it should be open for almost all of the knob settings. There is probably a plastic cover over this that is snapped in or secured with screws if you can see them.






  • J Mood Jan 08, 2009

    Pull the panel in the back of the freezer, you'll probably find frost plugging something up there. Turn the freezer on by turning it all the way up. You can manually initiate a defrost cycle by inserting a small flat blade screw driver into the button on the defrost timer and slowly turn it. When you hear a switch click and the refrigerator compressor turn off, the defrost cycle has started.

    Observe the evaporator coils in the back of the freezer and see this makes the frost melt. The door switch might have to be closed for the defroster to work, so hold the switch down with your finger. If it doesn't start to melt in a couple minutes, one of the defrost components is not working and you will need a multi-meter to diagnose the problem. Luckily, defrost parts are usually not expensive and easy to replace if you are a little bit handy.

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Our fridge abt 5-10 years old Pull out both crispers Undue four screws holding in floor underneath. Insert two bent coat hanger wires or hooks into rear 2 holes and pull upwords to slide front of floor from under lip in front. pull up styrofoam underneath from back, not front You may find drain hole under fan you can now see has frozen shut and ice has built up to point it stalls the fan

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