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When I wind the bobbin thread it does it way too loose and can't

Be used. I follow step by step instructions in my manual but it doesn't seem to wind right. My machine is working fine with an older previous wound bobbin but it is almost out of thread so I need to find out what is wrong, have tried different threads and bobbins but nothing works. Seems like it is some kind of tension problem. sure would appreciate hilp. Thanks, Diana Killian

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Sounds like you don't have the thread going around all the guides they are what puts tension on the thread when winding the bobbin

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Tighten The Tension On Your Sewing Machine. If This Doesn't Help Please Let Me Know. Please Post The Entire Tittle On The Problem As It Cuts The End Of And Only Shows( When I Wind The Bobbin Thread Is Too)

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  1. Remove the bobbin from the sewing machine. Open the bobbin door, then release the bobbin by pulling up on this lever.
  2. Pull the bobbin housing out. Lift the lever and pull the bobbin housing out of the machine.
  3. Tip the bobbin housing over and let the bobbin fall into your hand. If the bobbin had another color thread on it, you can use a new bobbin. Just make sure the bobbin you wind begins empty.
  4. Place your selected thread onto the spindle and insert a holder over it, if there is one. Many machines just use gravity to retain the thread, so if your spindle is vertical and you have no such part, don't worry about it.

    • If this is a brand new spool of thread, you may need to free the end. Look for a small notch on one end of the spool. You may have to peel back the label a bit to get at it.

  5. Loop the free end of the thread over the bobbin tensioner and any hooks on it. The location of this part varies, but it generally looks about like this.
  6. Thread the end of the thread through the hole in the side of the bobbin.
  7. Press the bobbin all the way onto the bobbin winding spindle. Make sure any springs or clips engage. Put it on so that the end of the thread that you put through the hole sticks out towards you.
  8. Disengage the needle mechanism. Many machines have this control in the hand wheel. The sewing machine may run faster when winding a bobbin than when sewing, and you don't want the needle bobbing up and down wildly.
  9. Engage the bobbin winding mechanism. On some machines, it's done by pushing the bobbin spindle over. You may also need to move the stitch selector to a bobbin winding position.
  10. Hold the free end of the thread and, keeping fingers clear of all moving parts, press the foot pedal or knee lever. The bobbin spindle will turn.

    • If you have the bobbin threaded correctly, the bobbin will wind smoothly, evenly, and snugly, with perhaps a slight bulge in the middle.
    • You can let go of the end of the thread as soon as there's enough thread on the bobbin to hold itself in place so it won't slip out.

  11. Fill the bobbin completely. It may seem like a lot of thread, but you don't want to run out too soon while you're sewing. Many machines have a built-in device to stop winding when the bobbin is full, often a small blade that automatically cuts the thread when the wound bobbin is full. If your machine has such a device, let it tell you how much to fill the bobbin. If not, fill the bobbin no further than its edges.
  12. Hold the bobbin and case so that they are oriented as shown. Check that the bobbin will unwind in the correct direction.
  13. Insert the bobbin into the bobbin case.
  14. Pull the thread under the bobbin tensioner (a thin metal tab). The thread should advance with a little resistance when you pull at it.
  15. Lift the tab on the bobbin case and hold it as shown.
  16. Insert the bobbin case into its housing. Make sure it is all the way engaged and that the direction is correct. The bobbin case shouldn't spin and shouldn't come loose when you release the tab.
  17. Re-engage the needle, disengage the bobbin winder, and set the machine back to a straight, forward stitch.
  18. Thread the top thread as usual, and hold the end of it with your free hand.
  19. Turn the hand wheel, moving the top towards yourself. One full rotation should do it. The top thread will pass around the bobbin.
  20. The bobbin thread will raise. Watch as the top thread pulls the bobbin thread up through the plate under the presser foot.
    • You can pass the closed ends of a pair of scissors under the presser foot to help pull the thread up and out.

    • If the free ends don't advance a bit when you pull them gently, rotate the hand wheel a bit until they do. Generally, the needle will need to be at the top of its travel.
  21. Pull the loose ends to extend them, and continue to hold them firmly so they don't get tangled as you begin to sew.
  22. Close the bobbin door before sewing.

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