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I have a Peterson Real-Frye ceramic vent-free fireplace/ log set in my bedroom and my problem is that the log set constantly shut off and the piole goes out. What is my problem and how can this problem be rectified. I have proper ventilation because I've tried using the fireplace with my bedroom door opened. PLEASE HELP ME< I'M COLD!!!!!

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First off, operating a VF gaslog more than 10K BTU in a bedroom is illegal and against code, mainly because it is considered a confined space. What's happening is the ODS (Oxygen Depletion Switch) is shutting down the unit due to lack of combuston air. PLEASE DO NOT OPERATE!!! For your own safety, replace it with a Peterson Valley Oak (VOG8-**R-12) or even an Empire Flint Hill (VFDR-18LB-10) before you possibly asphyxiate yourself...

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There is a thermocouple which is a piece of metal that sits in the pilot flame if this is not in the flame the pilot will go out if this is bad the pilot usually will not light or stay lit let me know if this is useful or of any ?'s

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