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Bobbin thread is showing through on top of fabric

Bobbin thread coming through on top of fabric

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Top tension too tight, or bottom too loose, or blunt needle most likely

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Tension problem. the other two answers are correct.

Posted on Dec 11, 2014

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Top and bottom threads should meet in the middle of the fabric layers. Normally you should not be messing with the bobbin tension. If switching to sewing that is thicker fabric, as stated by sewwot, be sure you have a needle of the appropriate gauge and that it is sharp. put contrasting thread in the bobbin and sew on scraps. If you can see the bobbin thread on top, make adjustments. Also make sure you are using the right thread. Sheer fabrics need lighter weight thread and heavier fabrics need heavier thread.

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I have a brother PR1000 and on the test stitch there is too much bobbin thread showing underneath. do I adjust the tension in the top thread or the bobbin tension?


Yes Adjust to more tight see what it'll do.
Bottom bobby is too tight or upper thread control is too lose.

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When I sew I have thread bunching up underneath the fabric, I've changed needle size, thread, bobbins and cleaned out around the bobbin holder. I'm frustrated and out of ideas.


Susan--
Easy peasy, once you know the problem and how to fix it. It's called "bird nesting" or "thread nesting" or what I refer to as thread "barfs."

Install a brand new needle.
Remove all the thread from the machine.
**ALWAYS RAISE** the presser foot and rethread the top thread.
Verify the top thread path is correct.
Install and thread the bobbin case, make sure it is correct.
Set the top tension to the midway point.

Now retest your machine. Birds nests gone? You may need to tweak the top tension because the factory standard changes due to age and use.

FWIW, problems appearing under the fabric are an issue of the top thread. Thread problems appearing on top of the fabric is a bobbin issue.

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Bobbin issues the bobbin thread is bunching up


Check whether it is bobbin thread or the top thread accumulating under the fabric. Generally, if thread problems exist "under" the fabric, it is a top thread issue. If the problems exist "above" the fabric, it is a bobbin issue.

Sounds like a thread nesting (bird nesting) problem where the top thread is globbing under the fabric. Usually, this is caused by misthreading (confirm the thread path), the thread not seated in the tension disk (ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot when threading!), or very loose top thread tension.

Remove the thread. Raise the presser foot and rethread from the beginning. Check that the thread path is correct. Set the upper tension at the midway point between high & low numbers (this is the beginning point for tension and will most likely need to be tweaked for your particular machine).

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Dec 11, 2016 | Sewing Machines

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Threads bunching up on singer 7256 when i start sewing


1. I believe that your bobbin tension is too tight.
2. Your top tension should be at about four.
3. When you do your top threading check the tension before threading the needle. It should have some tension but it can't be too loose. Do this with the foot down.
4. If you have adjusted the bobbin more loosely replace it and turn the hand wheel with some fabric in place. It should come out with a nice stitch. You may have to do very small adjustments to the top tension to make the stitch perfect.

Nov 04, 2016 | Singer 7256 Sewing Machine

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How can I prevent bobbin thread from bunching up and tangling?


First thing to do: install a brand new needle and clean the lint/dust from the feed dogs and bobbin area. Make sure you are using the right needle and thread for the fabric being sewn.

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Second thing: remove all the thread from the machine. RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning making sure that it is threaded correctly through every thread guide (consult the owner's manual). And verify that the bobbin is loaded and threaded in the bobbincase properly.

AVOID using old, fuzzy, and bargain bin threads.

Set the upper tension to the midway point between the high & low number (this is the factory standard although every machine may slightly differ). Now perform a new stitch test.

If the upper thread is creating a thread mess under the fabric, the upper tension is too loose. Tighten it.

If the bobbin thread is coming up to the top of the fabric, loosen the upper thread and retest. Sometimes the upper thread tension is not enough to prevent the bobbin thread from coming up. In that case, the bobbin tension may need to be tightened. (Search the internet for instructions for adjusting the bobbin tension. NOTE: bobbin tension adjustments should be done in micro-increments as a small adjustment will make a big difference in the result. Be sure to test after each adjustment.)

The tension is correct when the upper thread and bobbin thread meet and cross in the middle of the fabric. This will change whenever fabric, needle & thread are changed, so a sewist needs to be comfortable with regularly making upper thread adjustments.

One other thing to try is pull the bobbin thread up through the fabric before stitching and gently holding the thread tails when taking the first couple of stitches.

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Why isbobbin stitch on top weird how do i fix


sorry but the bottom stitch does not move but the top one does . if you want straight stitch the machine setting has to be changed to straight .

May 22, 2015 | Sewing Machines

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Bobbin thread is showing through on top of fabric


loosen your top tension... run a test seam. Loosen some more... test.

Nov 07, 2012 | Sewing Machines

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Top thread tangled in bobbin.


try changing the needle---flat side goes to the back side of the machine
also check the top tension
depending on the fabric your sewing on--the needle & thread have to work
with the fabric--example light fabric needs a different needle & thread than
a heavy fabric
check to see if the thread is coming off the thread take up lever when you
sew.

Apr 04, 2012 | Singer 8280 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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I am using a satin stitch to applique. The tension is incorrect. I have placed a different colour thread in the top and bobbin, the top thread is appearing only as a single thread through the bottom...


You need to tighten the tension on the bobbin thread as it is too loose and is being pulled through by the tension on the top which is probably correct. First check that the bobbin is in correct. I know it's frustrating but even after 40 yr it's where I start if it's all in right then tighten the screw on the bobbin case a little at a time till you get it to the right tension. The thread coming out of the bobbin case should take a pull for thread to come out if you hold the thread and turn loose of the bobbin case and the thread unwinds like a yo-yo it's to loose. The bobbin should stay in the case wile you test it this way.

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