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Electrical diagram from circuit breaker box to hot tub connection

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120Volt or 240Volt?
Hardwire or plug-in-outlet?
Where is the GFCI? On the outlet or on the breaker?
Here is a starter:
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-circuit-breaker.html

Are you connecting a new spa?
Or is old spa having problems?
Exactly which problems?
Or if the element getting wet and causing GFCI to trip?
Is circuit breaker tripped?
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Posted on Nov 07, 2012

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You have 220v running into your motor, the red and the plack are in most cases the same 110v line and what your calling a white netural is a common line. In other words the second half of your 220v line. If your red and black are the two opposing 110v lines that make up your 220v and they are put on the motor and turned on they short aginst each other and blow the breaker. One of your 220v lines should come into your hi -low switch and then split to your high and low on the pump. The other half of your 220v line will go to the common or what your calling nuteral. The difference is a netural completes a 110v circut and a common completes the 220v circut it will take to run the motor. One of the splits will complete the low speed circut and the other will complete the high speed circut. You need to check your voltage comming into the spa, the way the spa is wired (110v-220v), and how the motor is wired (110v-220v). For your spa this will be in your owners manuel or on a scematic inside a panel or door and is quite often a plug you change from one spot to another. On your motor will have a scematic on the back of the motor that will tell you haw to adjust the wireing already in place on the wire board of the motor. This may sound deep but if all your voltages are set the same and your high and low are the same leg of power, this should fix your problem.

Posted on Oct 31, 2009

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SOURCE: no power to hot tub...

In all liklihood, your problem is a breakdown in the insulation of the heating element. The elements tend to be mineral insulated then metal jacketed. Once you get a bit of corrosion on the jacket and a little water gets into the mineral powder, it's insulation properties fall off sharply, shorting out the power supply.

There are two practical ways of testing this:

The pro way of doing it is to borrow a high voltage insulation tester, disconnect the power leads from the element and check the resistance between one of the elements terminals and the jacket. Treat anything less than a megohm as a failure requiring replacement of the element. (nb. This is one of those rare cases where you need to use a proper insulation tester - an ordinary multimeter often fails to find this problem)

The alternative is just to replace the element and see how much difference it makes.

A.

Posted on May 25, 2009

SOURCE: Running a 220 volt 40amp service for my hot tub.

By code, this would require underground cable to a breaker panel with a double pole GFI (maybe that's what you were planning). Then from the breaker panel to outlets, pumps, etc.

40 amp breaker will require 8 AWG cable.


More info, let me know...

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Posted on Aug 23, 2009

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SOURCE: this is an old hot tub qca jewel spa that runs all the time

your ozonator may have condensation water in it, try unplugging it and using a hairdryer to dry it out, otherwise you will need a replacement ozonator (i know where to get these at dealer cost if you need one). When replacing ozonator, make sure you request the correct plug type depending on if you have the white plugs or gray plugs that plug into either the side of your spa pack or the circuit board.
Good job on isolating the problem by unplugging each component when a circuit breaker trips. Next, your filter cycle is most likely set on constant filtration, you will need to reset it to 2-4 hours per 12 hour cycle. Don't put it in standby, leave it run in standard mode. Hope this helps,
Spafixer

Posted on Apr 09, 2010

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SOURCE: I have a 2000 Sovereign Hot Spring hot tub that

Check for a bad heater controller board or burnt wire connection going to the heater. You can check for voltage across the white and black leads going to the heater from the heater controller board (upper left corner of the black control box

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I just wired my hot tub into my new house. And GFCI keeps tripping?


Still would go with Miswired.
if this is an auxiliary GFCI Spa Disconnect,
240 VAC, 50 Amp, then...
All of the following needs to be this way:
  • 4 wires from MAIN Circuit panel, into GFCI disconnect box, 2 hots, 1 Neutral, 1 ground
    • 2 hots go onto the disconnects Power Bus Bar for breaker
    • 1 white Nuetral goes to Isolated nuetral bus bar
    • 1 green Ground goes to ground lug directly on the box
  • 1 GFCI in the auxiliary disconnect box
    • The White Pigtail of the GFCI Breaker goes onto the Isolated Nuetral bus bar. There are now two wires there.
  • 4 wires come into box from Spa. (Unless the spa is Specifically a 3 Wire Connection Spa!)
    • 2 Hot/Line wires will go into the L1 & L2 lugs of the breaker respectively.
    • 1 White Nuetral Wire will go into breaker as well at the "Load Nuetral lug, usually marked as 'LN'.
      • It will NOT go on the Isolated Nuetral bus bar.
    • Green Ground wire will be connected to ground lug, 2 wires are now connected there.
  • Connections at spa will be respectively connected: the 2 hots on line 1 and line 2. White wire goes to Nuetralnd green ground will go to a Ground Lug, most likely to metal control box.
If it's not wired in this manner, it is wired WRONG.

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Dedicated 20 amp outlet


Ideally you should run the line straight from the circuit breaker out to your hot tub, but if the line running from your circuit breaker to the box you're using now is 20amp. you can absolutely connected to that. to be up to code it cannot be an open box it needs to be closed After you wire in your 70ft connection. (that's assuming the box that you're using is dedicated already to your hot tub) then the only difference would be is your using extra line and costing you tenths of a penny extra and electricity per hour.

Jul 27, 2013 | Electrical Supplies

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What's youI just wired in my J-300 Jacuzzi hot tub. The GFI trips every time I reset it. I took the GFI out of the equation and the tub runs fine, does not trip the breaker at the main breaker box


#1. DO NOT GET INTO TUB FULL OF WATER WITH A GROUND FAULT.
2. There is a short. You need to get multimeter and start checking each part for current running to ground wire.
3) Power is ON. Connect power without GFCI.
4) Tape tester leads to wood sticks to keep hands away from power.
5) Do not touch anything directly or you will become the ground rod.
6) Ground wire must be present, and bonded back to main panel box.
7) Do not sit or touch directly on cement or bare ground. Do not touch or lean into anything made of metal.
8) Body and parts must be on sheet of plywood, or similar non-conductive dry surface.
9) Test each part with spa, but also test electric line coming from main box.
10) GFCI will also trip with any fault detected on line. So the wire coming to spa may have the fault.
11) Add a new dedicated line from main box to spa.

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html

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It wont run no lites or any thing. has power into control panal.nothing hums buzzes or any thing,want a diagram to figure this out,model number 12-322-322m thank you this is a seven sea hot tub


The wiring diagram for most control boxes made today are located on the inside panel of the control box.
If this doesn't blow the circuit breaker when you turn the GFCI on then you most likely have a bad circuit board.
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40 amp gfi on hot tub keeps tripping.I have a 50 amp.can I use?


Your hot tub needs GFI protection because it is electrical, and people sit inside water that could be exposed to electric current.
You have a fault to ground that needs to be fixed.

Size 8 wire for 50Amp breaker.
Size 6 if tub is 50-100' feet away
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html

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Why is my 50 amp GFIC breaker tripping out? I have just installed a new hot tube.I had one there before(smaller 40 amp) so there was already #8 wire there.The new hot tub requires a 50 amp. #6 wire. I just...


There might be a few things here:

1) Big problem >> the #8 wire is a fire hazard connected to a 50Amp breaker

#8 is a 40 amp breaker
#6 is a 55 amp breaker
We put #6 on a 60 amp breaker
Are you saying you hooked the #8 wire to the new 50 amp breaker, and the hot tub called for #6 wire?

Upsize your wire and breaker to meet code
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Wire-size-amp-rating.pdf

2) After putting the correct wire and breaker, you can still have a short in the circuit somewhere
We used to set equipment out in the field in early morning >> the grass was wet >> our equipment was fine, but the tiniest short would cause the GFCI to trip

I don't know where the problem is without a thorough checkout of every possible grounded surface. You need a good multi-meter

3) You better get an electrician over there to have a look before the place burns down or somebody wakes up dead in the hot water.

If I sound a bit scary here, it's because something doesn't sound right with your installation.

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I have a 240V hot tub and when I turn on the Cutler-Hammer GFCB250 GFI Circuit Breaker, 50A, it trips immediately. I spoke with a tech support guy from the hot tub mfr who says that the heater and pump...


It is very possible breaker is bad. If you have another 50 amp breaker in the box try swapping them and see if it still trips. GFIC breakers are finicky and they do go bad. I would make sure that the heater is not shorted out before replacing the breaker. It shows 15 ohms which is not what you would normally see which is 9-12 ohms. The reading of 15 ohms you got is high but if the manufacture says that is acceptable then we must assume it is. You also need to test for a short before eliminating the element as a possible cause. Test it with your ohm meter set to the highest setting. Measure between one element terminal and the sheath of the element. Any reading indicates a short to ground indicating the element is bad. If you find it is good then a defective GFCI is really about all it can be.

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When Working with Household Electricity you want to always keep in mind that the BLACK wire ALWAYS carries DEATH. What I mean by this is that working with a Single Phase Circuit (one that uses 120VAC) the only wire that should be carrying a voltage is the BLACK one, the other 2 wires (typically the White Neutral and Green Ground) should both be electrically connected to Earth Ground (usually by being attached to your water pipe.)

It is also possible that your hot tub may use more than 20 Amps.

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The hottub keeps kicking the circuit breaker off.


Either the breaker is bad or you have an electrical problem. Unless you know how to work with electrical problems call for service. If you unplug the hot tub and plug a lamp or hair dryer into the outlet does the breaker trip? If yes, call an electrician. If the outlet is fine call for service on the hot tub.

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