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Intake/Drain Error In the middle of a cycle the Intake/Drain indicator is lit and the unit stops. I checked the non-return valve and the pump propeller (has no obstructions). Pump seems working as I hear the sound of draining water. When I open the door after failure I see water in the unit (sometimes more sometimes less). Any help is appreciated.

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  • olafbirk Nov 15, 2007

    exact same problem with same symptoms, and no real apparent problem with anything on the dishwasher. Huge party coming up, would love to hear from someone with any ideas.

  • mark56 Nov 24, 2007

    Seems I have the same problem. About 3 minutes into any cycle the intake/drain light starts flashing and the cycle progresses no more. The intake is clear (machine fills with water) and the drain is clear (when I turn the machine off and restart it, it drains fine).

  • dmkasaa Nov 30, 2007

    My dishwasher has also been doing this except tonight it has stopped
    working. The motor keeps running as if it is trying to drain water, but
    it is doing this even in the stop position. The only thing that I can
    do is turn the power off. If I try to reset and then push start nothing
    happens. Up until tonight, to solve the intake/drain flashing light
    problem, I would just turn the dial back to stop and start over again.
    After a few times, it would finally work and then continue the wash
    just fine. I would really appreciate any help!

  • Anonymous Dec 09, 2007

    I have the same problem with this Miele Novotronic 841 SC Plus.

    How to fix the intake/drain error problem?

    It stop in the middle of the cycle, and water in the dishwasher is not drained out. I check the drain area, it is clean.

    I check the the water intake filter, it is clean.

    Any solution?

  • LisaGK Sep 30, 2008

    The intake/drain light would go red and then the dishwasher would stop... for several days I've been able to get things going again by switching the dial to "stop," and then starting everything over again. But today, even before I start the dishwasher, I've noticed that the pan underneath has filled with water... it was dry when I unloaded, so the water must have come from some kind of inner tray or the door tray or something. We don't have an easy way to pull out the dishwasher and unplug the water hose so I'm going to have to call for a repair. I'll keep you posted.

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There is water collected in the inner tray of your unit. Pull out the Miele and take off the drain hose and unplug the unit. Then tilt the dishwasher back 60* and let it drain out all the water. There will be a couple of cups on the floor, but nothing too big that a couple of towles can't handle. Then reconnect everything and start up the unit. It WILL work! It just happened to me and my Miele incognito is now working like a champ again!!

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I cleaned out the drain pump and non-return valve on my Miele G658/858 and that fixed the problem. The G841 may have similar parts. It's easy to do. In order: 1. Turn off washer. 2. Remove the triple filter (the basket on the bottom of washer with the little handle. Turn the handle and remove) rinse out and set-aside. 3. Remove the standing water. I used a wet vac to remove the standing water from the bottom of the machine, but you can scoop it out also. 4. Tilt the locking clamp (tilt left) to the side. (this is a metal wire covering the white plastic valve. This valve is to the right of the triple filter basket.) 5. Pull out the non-return valve and rise will under running water. You may have to wiggle the valve a little. Pull straight up and out. 6. The drain pump is beneath the non-return valve. (it has a little plastic propeller, like a paddle wheel, inside) 7. Spin the propeller several times in both directions to make sure it's clear. ( I used the shop vac with a small hose attachment to clear the drain above the propeller compartment) 8. Carefully refit the non-return valve and secure it with the locking clamp. 9. Refit and lock the filter in place.
I haven't had a problem since and my dished are much cleaner- The problem must have been coming on for a long time.
Hope this helps,

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Machine: Miele G658
Problem: Dishwasher makes a few clicking sounds and then the intake/drain LED starts flashing.

Cause: Water in the tray underneath the dishwasher. There's a sensor (metal pin, 0.5cm diameter, 2cm long) underneath the filter (in the labyrinth) that got pushed out. This way the water ran down a collection tray underneath the dishwasher. An overflow sensor noticed this and generated this error.

Solution: take out the water, put the pin back in, and wash dishes ;)

Posted on Sep 08, 2013

We had same problem. Ended up having to replace the whole control board for $1000...yikes!

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We followed each of these solutions (all very helpful, but not the issue). Turns out my wife had put one of those pot scrubbing tools that has a built in dishwashing (liquid...like Dawn) resevoir on it in the dishwasher. During the wash cycle the liquid soap came out and suds up; causing the Miele to believe it was going to overflow...and shut-down. So, besides the moral of this story you should also look for suds and be weary.

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