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What can i do to improve my graphics?

I bought the new nVIDIA 9400 GT graphics card... and when i try to attach it, it tells me about the PCI express x16 slot... What do i do now?

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Hey katman_k, the reason that i am gessing is because mybe the PCI controllers do not support that high upgrade graphics card or the motherboard processor and unit may not work efficiantly with the graphics card because the computer might not meet the system requirements for the graphics card. I would go down the list and make sure it meets those requirements.

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Looking for advice on a video card. Would a radeon hd 5750 run on c51gm motherboard


1) You have a PCI Express x16 expansion slot, for a graphics card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135010

(Orange)

A) 1GigaByte of graphics memory which is GDDR3. (It is GDDR3, not DDR3; trust me)
B) 800MegaHertz Core Clock
C) 1600MHz Memory Clock
D) API's - DirectX 11
Open GL 4.1
Shader Model 5.0


2) The motherboard chipset is an Nvidia GeForce 6100 - Northbridge, and an Nvidia nForce 410 - Southbridge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_6_Series#GeForce_6100_and_6150_series_chip_specifications

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_6_.286xxx.29_series

Nvidia GeForce 6100/nForce 410, came out 2005.


3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Northbridge chip of the motherboard chipset, handles the Faster capabilities of a computer.
Processor (CPU), Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

AGP technology, and PCI Express technology, ARE HIGH-speed graphics.

Using a PCI slot for a graphics card, or using Integrated Graphics; is NOT high speed graphics.

(As you can see in the Motherboard Diagram, the PCI bus is controlled by the Southbridge chip. The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer.

Means anything connected to the PCI bus, such as a graphics card in a PCI expansion slot; is handled by the Southbridge chip.
Integrated graphics also )

4) PCI Express came out 2004.
Went from PCI Express 1.0 version to PCI Express 1.1 version.
In 2007 PCI Express went to the 2.0 version. PCI Express 2.0.

Your motherboard, IMHO, uses the PCI Express 1.1 technology.
This is why I recommend a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology. (For one)

PCI Express 2.0 is Backward Compatible, with PCI Express 1.1
A little iffy if it's PCI Express 1.0

I have seen a lot of problems crop up with users trying to use a graphics card, based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology; on a motherboard based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.

That's why I recommended PCI Express 2.0

PCI Express 3.0 is supposed to overcome that, (Use on a mobo with PCI-E 1.1), but I have no real world knowledge, (Hands on), and no input from the 'outside'. (Internet/world)

5) You need at least a 400 Watt power supply. Don't have at least a 400 Watt? Time to move up.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1147669&Sku=U12-41529

Regards,
joecoolvette

Nov 20, 2012 | ECS C51GM-M Motherboard

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I have a ASRock CONROE1333-DVI/H R2 motherboard and i wanted to know if i could use a graphics card that requires a pci express 2.0 slot


Absolutely!

The AsRock Conroe1333-DVI/H R2 mobo uses PCI-Express 1.1 technology. It's in the Intel 945G motherboard chipset.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=CONROE1333-DVI/H

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_4.2FPentium_D.2FPentium_EE_chipsets

Scroll down to bottom of chart. 945G made in 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

Scroll down to History and revisions.
PCI Express 2.0 -> 15 January 2007

A graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, will work on a motherboard based on the PCI express 1.1 technology.

Why?

Because PCI Express 2.0 technology is Backward Compatible, with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

You just won't get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card.
Will you notice? NO

PCI Express 1.0a, and PCI Express 1.1, operate with a per-lane data rate of 250MegaBytes per Second. (250MB/s)
Transfer rate of 2.5Gigabits per Second. (2.5Gb/s)

PCI Express 2.0 operates with a 500MB/s per-lane data rate.
Transfer rate of 5.0Gb/s.

Make SURE you have Windows running, then install the software for the graphic card -> F-I-R-S-T, then physically install the graphics card.
(Computer unplugged from power, Anti-Static Precautions -> FOLLOWED)

The computer will not use the graphics cards software, UNTIL the graphics card is installed.
It will keep on using the integrated graphics on the motherboard, until the graphics card is installed.

Means get the motherboard going first, use it's integrated graphics.
Install software for graphics card, and then Physically install the graphics card.
(Don't forget to attach the monitor cable to the graphics card, lol!)

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 08, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Is it possible to dual video card in ECS 945gct-m (v1.0)?


http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=727&CategoryID=1&MenuID=16&LanID=0

Let's read together,

" 945GCT-M v1.0 motherboard features the 945GC and ICH7 chipsets, supporting Intel Core 2 Duo/ Pentium D processor up to 1066 MHZ FSB and GMA950 embedded.

-> With two PCI-E graphic cards, this board can support Scalable D.G.E., which produces supercharged 3D performance, and enables two bridged PCI-E based graphic cards to work jointly.

-> Moreover, with enabled -> onboard VGA and -> PCI Express add-on card, this board can perform Surround Display which provides a panoramic view, along with an unique real-time experience of surround game display."

Will support two PCI-Express x16 graphics cards.
What isn't stated in that paragraph, is one graphics card will be supported at 16x, with the other being supported at 4x.

The Orange PCI-Express x16 slot supports a graphics card at the 16x bandwidth. (Hmmm, looks Red to me)

The Blue PCI-Express x16 slot supports a graphics card at the 4x bandwidth.

Was just bringing up the point, that the mobo will support OnBoard, or Integrated graphics, AND also one of those PCI-Express x16 slots.

"Surround Display"

Means BIOS will allocate an Interrupt Request for the OnBoard (Integrated) graphics, and also allocate an IRQ for the PCI-Express x16 graphics card, for using BOTH at the SAME TIME.

Never have seen this before. Must lead a sheltered life! Lol!
No big deal, however. Two graphics cards are much better.

Motherboard Manual,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface

Just click on the country nearest yours. It's a PDF file, and the first page comes up within seconds.

SLI for Nvidia. Scalable Link Interface,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface

CrossFire is ATI.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-295.73-whql-driver.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/slizone_howtobuild_1.html

5 Pages.

http://aphnetworks.com/reviews/gigabyte_geforce_9800gt_512mb



IF, your Power Supply does NOT have two 6-pin PCI Express power cables, AND you use an adapter power cable, that uses two 4-pin Peripheral power cables, MAKE SURE you use TWO -> 4-pin Peripheral power cables! <-

If not you will burn up the power cable's connector.
You will burn up the power cable connector on the graphics card.
You will burn the PCI Express x16 slot the graphics card is sitting in.

May not happen right away, but I Assure you it Will happen!

4-pin Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

6-pin PCI Express power cable, and shows adapter power cable I am referring to,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#pciexpress

The Yellow wires are 12 Volt wires. (DC)
Need two for every graphics card.

Do I know if they will both physically fit? No.
You have the motherboard, and the two graphics cards, though.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Aug 06, 2012 | EliteGroup Computers & Internet

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Which Graphics card is supported for Intel D101GGC motherboard and how much capacity (512 or 1 GB or anything) can be supported with 1 GB DDR RAM


The graphics card's ram memory is independent of the system ram memory.

Doesn't matter if your computer system ram memory is DDR Sdram, and the graphics card has GDDR5 graphics ram memory, and 1GB of it.
(1024MB)

To expound;

Integrated, (Also known as OnBoard Graphics) Graphics borrows from the system resources. The Processor and Ram Memory.
A graphics card has it's own Processor.
The GPU. {Graphics Processing Unit}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

A graphics card also has it's own ram memory. Graphics Ram Memory.


The best expansion slot for a graphics card on an Intel D101GGC motherboard is the PCI Express x16 expansion slot.

The motherboard chipset is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (For Intel)
The code name is RC410

The ATI RC410 chipset was brought out in March of 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_chipsets#Comparison_of_Northbridges_2

In 2005 the PCI Express 1.1 technology was being used.
PCI Express 2.0 technology wasn't brought out until January of 2007.

Your motherboard's PCI Express x16 slot is using the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

Can you use the newer PCI Express 2.0, or PCI Express 2.1 graphics cards?

YES

PCI Express 2.0, and PCI Express 2.1 is Backward Compatible with PCI Express 1.1

Will you get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card?

NO

BUT you won't notice either, trust me.

You can use a graphics card based on ATI or Nvidia.
Doesn't matter.

What does matter IMHO, is to buy the best graphics card for the money, and not purchase one that will
'Break the Bank'.

You have to read through all the hype, and the flashy advertising, and make a choice based on deductive reasoning and intelligent thought.

More 'Bang for the Buck'.

You also have to base what kind of Wattage your power supply puts out, and the maximum Amp's on the 12 Volt power rail. (Or combine the 12 Volt power rails, if multiple 12 Volt rails are used)

When you look at the graphics card you wish to purchase, look for the Minimum System Requirements.
The Power Supply minimum Wattage requirement will be listed.

If it is a real powerful graphics card, the minimum 12 Volt Amp's will be listed also.

Two examples;

1) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6680896&CatId=3669

Scroll down to the > Specifications heading.
Read the bottom of the list > Minimum PSU Wattage Requirement > 400 Watts

A 400 Watt PSU (Power Supply Unit) will have at least 20 Amps on the 12 Volt power rail.
{It isn't listed in the minimum PSU requirements. This is a given}

[Is the above graphics card a decent card? You Betcha! 192 Stream Processors]


2) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6463720&CatId=3669

Uses less power than a comparable Nvidia GPU based graphics card.
A 300 watt power supply will be just fine.

[Note*

The minimum power requirements set by the graphics card manufacturer, are based upon a test system build.
They use a test computer with a gamer motherboard, powerful Processor, lot's of Ram Memory, and the power required for their graphics card.

The minimum Wattage (And 12 Volt power rail Amperage) is Not just based upon what the graphics card will use.

For questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Dec 07, 2010 | Intel D101GGC Motherboard

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Is nvidia 9600gt graphic card compatible with asus p5rd2vm motherboard


Yes.

1) The Asus P5RD2-VM motherboard has a PCI Express x16 slot.

The Nvidia 9600GT uses a PCI Express x16 slot.


2) The PCI Express version used on the Nvidia 9600GT is PCI Express 2.0

The PCI Express technology used on the Asus P5RD2-VM motherboard is PCI Express 1.1

The motherboard chipset used on the Asus P5RD2-VM shows us this.

The motherboard chipset is an ATI RD480. (Before AMD bought ATI out)

The ATI RD480 chipset came out September 27, 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_chipsets#Comparison_of_Northbridges

Scroll down until you come to > RD480 in the left column, then read across.

The PCI Express technology started under another name, then was changed to PCI Express.
The first version was PCI Express 1.0
Then PCI Express 1.1

In 2007 (January 15) the PCI Express 2.0 technology was brought out.


The PCI Express 2.0 technology is Backward Compatible with the PCI Express 1.1 technology.
(With PCI Express 1.0 also, but it depends on the graphics card being used)



In otherwords, a graphics card that has been based upon the PCI Express 2.0 technology, will work on a motherboard based on the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

You won't get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card.
Will you notice?
NO.

[ If I had my choice I would run an Nvidia 9800GT instead.
Depends on the price, and availability of the 9600GT I would assume, though.
You may also need a more powerful Power supply.

Example, not advertising,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6391081&CatId=3670 ]

Nov 03, 2010 | ASUS P5RD2-VM Motherboard

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A display problem of monitor comes with geforce 9400 gt pci ex. card. how can i solv it? when i insert cart the display of monitor out. how can i solv it?


According to the specs of the MSI 9400gt 512mb HDMI graphics cards, its system requirements are:
1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0 - compliant motherboard with one x16 graphics slot.
2. Power supply of 300 (and up) watt is highly recommended for system stability.

Make sure that your power supply meets the or exceeds the system requirements for this graphics card.

Jun 26, 2009 | ASUS COMPUTER INTL P5SD2-VM MBD MATX LGA...

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Can i add nvidia 9500 gt on intel D865GVHZ


The board only supports regular PCI expansion boards. Most new video cards are PCI Express which is a different specification. I wouldn't recomend it.

Jun 14, 2009 | Intel D865GVHZ Motherboard

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Graphic card for gigabyte motherboard.


I just bought and installed a HIS Hightech H467QS512P Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail. I pasted this from Newegg.com. It is realy fast and is rated the best card for the money in CPU magizine this month. 80 bucks at Newegg with a free World Of Warcraft Game. PCI EXpress 2.0 is backward compatible with PCI Express 1.0 by the way.

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i'm using NVIDIA GEFORCE 8600 GT on my d101ggc board and its working fine

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