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Advantium Power Out (by 15 users)

posted by swan0299 on May 16, 2007


Our less than 4 year old GE Advantium is dead.
I was baking a pizza at 450F and it powered ofr (outlet is still working).
I am thinking this is a thermostat problem. Can someone help me figure out where to locate it and determine if this is the problem?
THANKS!

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14 Other Users Have The Same Problem

Comment by lesleern, posted on Jul 20, 2008

ok GE. What are you going to do about the Advantium 120?!!! Once again, my wife tried to use the oven feature and the power went out. THIS IS ****! I am so tired of products like this that come to market, EXPENSIVE products, and then to have an obvious manufacturer's defect that I have to pay, ONCE AGAIN, to have fixed. What happened to workmanship? What happened to customer service?
GE, ARE YOU GOING TO RESOLVE THIS? Or are we just insignificant little problems for your big corporation?

Comment by mykime, posted on Jul 11, 2008

I was cooking at 450 F and the power went out.

Comment by tredmond, posted on May 01, 2008

This is the fifth time I am replacing the TCO's in my microwave. (partselect.com has always bewen great to deal with.)What a hassle! Definitely a manufacture defect- more trouble than the unit is worth. Thinking of replacing with a regular exhaust hood and buying a separate microwave/convection oven for the counter (not a GE!)

Comment by fixyadog, posted on Apr 26, 2008

My Advantium had broken down completely 3 times in 5 years. The inline fuse was defective. The defect was very obvious - the metal cap was bent when it was installed in the factory but GE charged me $250 in labor for this 10cent part to be replaced. What a rip. It just brokedown again and this time I'm going to repair it myself!

Comment by LynnMS, posted on Mar 28, 2008

I was using mine for the 7th or 8th time when it just went off-now power at all. Help!!

Best Solution
posted on Apr 24, 2008
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Hammerinc


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With regards to power going out. Very possibly it is a fuse that has blown out. It is a $5 part and a $200 technician visit if you don't have appliance repair coverage. An easy fix. Good Luck.

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Solution #2
posted on Oct 07, 2007
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RobX


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Same Problem - baking when all power appears to go out - but the AC power is plugged in and it is good:

This is a known manufacture defect for the Advantium 120 model SCA1000. But, don't expect Sears or GE to take care of you.

Short version: A Thermister that cost under $1.00 to manufacture and is known to be defective in this and other products needs replaced. But, the schematic, the GE Repair Center, and local GE repair center don't document things right and don't have the part.
I won't buy GE again since they can't control the manufacture of fire safety standards in the Korean plants. This part will be defective after about 3 3/4 years of being plugged into the wall. So much for your optional 3 year warranty!


Read the entier solution before trying this at home:

1. Remove the button front panel where the display is at. The ribbon cables to the front panel will allow room to peer inside. There is an envelope taped to the side with the schematic.
2 On the Schmatic Diagram (not the wiring diagram) on the bottom see CN6 - with two thermistor. Now look at your actual wiring. Guess what! GE did not even put the right wiring diagram in your maicrowave! GE shows a 3 wire device. Actually you will find 2 different 2 wire devices! Thanks GE, I took the part and the schemetic to an Authorized GE repir parts store. They checked with the GE parts manager in Dallas. After paying the GE shop $49.87 for the part order, after 6 follow up calls and 3 weeks, they send the wrong part on the schematic, not the part that I brought in that is actually in the oven.
3. The part that is bad in your oven is a thermister that cost about $0.14 to make. There are two of them. There is two wires that attach to them. If your unit overheats, it shuts down the power for safety. What happed is that one of the two thermisters is opened (defective). They are screwed on to the service to detect heat. The numbers on the can are PW-2R (PWC PW-2).
One of mine measures about 44 ohms, the other exact one is open (infinate resistance).

It is two wires attached to a round cylinder about 3/8" wide - a bracket holds it against a flat surface with a single phillips screw. Its purpose is to detect heat, if things get too hot, it switches from on to off. When they go bad - it stays in the off position. The effect looks as if you don't have your microwave plugged into the wall.

4. Ordering the PW-2R. GE has no record of them. Thanks again GE!
HP laser Printers used them on one model. This little part caused all of the printers to go bad. From an internet article, it appears that HP Printers no longer use this part. In the case of GE, it is my opinion that they got the microwave safety approved then switched out parts for manufacturing. Where is Consumer Reports when you need them?
5. I am still searching the Internet for a substitute part. One Sears repair person quickly (and unofficially) told me that it would be the Thermister, a known problem before I started.

This is my worry: If the part is not available, and repair persons are making quick fixes (for about $100), that they are simply cutting and tying the connector together. In otherwords, they are taking out the safety feature rather than replacing the safety part.

If I find the part, I will post it on here. But, after a couple of hours of searching, and checking with various part shops it does not look too good.

It does not take much searching on the Internet to see that the GE Advantium is widely known for poor manufacturing standards and about a 4 year life-cycle. When one considers what it cost... it appears to be rated as a bad investment to trust GE applicances.

By the way - the schematic and other parts indicate it is manufactured in Korea.

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Solution #3
posted on Dec 29, 2007
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mongojoe


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Same thing just happened to my Advantium 120 after 6 months of operation. Luckily, this still falls within my warranty period. If most failures are occurring after the 3 year mark (when most extended GE warranties expire), that would seem to be a well-engineered failure point.

Class action lawsuit, anyone?

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Solution #4
posted on May 17, 2007
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MicrowaveSvc


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If you or a friend decide to work on it, we have *critical* safety & disassembly info at our site, which is linked at our listing here on FixYa: http://tinyurl.com/yzjozk

You can find helpful exploded view diagrams and order parts by entering your model number (not Advanitum 120, but the actual model number) here: http://tinyurl.com/gv383

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14 Other Users Have The Same Problem - Continued

Comment by JWHITE1963, posted on Mar 26, 2008

I FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO POWER TO MY ADVANTIUM. I CHECKED THE OUTLET AND HAD POWER. ANY INSIGHT?

Comment by Guest, posted on Mar 21, 2008

I was also cooking a pizza @ 450 when the oven just went off and never came back on . No lights , no power , no clock, nothing. Can I reset it somehow?

Comment by loyola1986, posted on Mar 18, 2008

Sorry. The part number I just put in is missing a value. It should be WB49X10149.

Comment by loyola1986, posted on Mar 18, 2008

Had a GE Serviceman come to the house and I told him that I replaced the TCO twice. Essentially there is a problem with the fact the TCO is not shielded from the heat build up in the within the area between the oven cavity and the top cover. This defect is known by GE and a TCO Repair/Service kit is available, the part number is WB49X1049. I got the kit from www.partselect.com.

Comment by loyola1986, posted on Feb 25, 2008

Have experienced the same problem. I have replaced the thermal cutoff valve twice and the thermostat in the exhaust cavity where the TCO is. I am guessing the temperature in the exhaust cavity is getting to be greater than 302 degrees farenheit and triggering the TCO, thus shutting down the unit. I have a few guesses about the problem, one being the pathetic Thermostat which you can get from geappliances.com, it is part no. 1430. Also you can get the TCO from there as well. I am also thinking it may be the inlet damper motor could be bad and that is called the inlet damper assembly. I am hesitant to replace anymore parts after reading here all entries identifying the same problem. It sounds like GE Advantiums are not worth the investment, although ours was free given to us by a family member. Not sure of the real solution.

Comment by itsmedebby, posted on Dec 27, 2007

My Advantium 120 just turned 3 years old. I am finding out that this must be a common problem at that age - quite an expensive item for 3 year life. Does anyone have a solution yet?

Comment by sheepox, posted on Nov 24, 2007

First, I noticed that the time on my Advantium was stuck st 5:49 am. None of the buttons would work. So I unplugged it and plugged it back in. By doing that, my Advantium worked again. Now later on that day, I went to microwave again and when I went to press "micro express", the button beeped once and then the whole thing powered out. I went to unplug and plug again hoping it would work like last time but it didn't. The whole thing's dead. It's a fairly new Advantium too. I see that other people have had problems with it. They should recall this product!

Comment by tammieerika, posted on Nov 21, 2007

our advantium is about 3years old it just stopped working with an F3 so we looked up how to fix it were told purchase control card we purchased it and put it in it worked GREAT for 2 WEEKS ONLY and now we have F3 again while I was using the oven it just just shut off and started beeping F3 YIKES what is wrong PLEASE HELP. Thanks Tammie

Comment by Reify, posted on Nov 09, 2007

Same problem, it just quit while in operation. Demounted oven, took cover off, found open Thermal Cut Off switch (note that this is NOT a thermistor). Actually found that resistance varied wildly, depending on how device terminals are tweaked -- appears to be bad solder joints on TCO switch.

This particular oven had a schematic that shows 2-terminal TCOs.

Will look for replacement part tomorrow...

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