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A direct vent heater that resembles a fireplace that is energy efficient?

We're looking to replace a free standing propane fireplace that has not been energy efficient. Can anyone recommend one that doesn't drink propane that is of good quality for approx 1200 to 1500 sqft? The only ones I've found are the Empire RH50BP or RH65BP and the Williams 6502921. I can't find any reviews on these. Any ideas? Thank

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burners burning yellow , in complete combustion , blocked air ways to burner , it needs a service soon as poss

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Thanks for your question,
your problem is either impingement on your log set, or a product of incomplete combustion, if you notice soot on your logs, then you will need to take them out, clean them, and reinstall them as to not have the flame touching them, you will need to clean the burners as well, make sure nothing is laying across the burners, as this too will cause sooting, as far as incomplete combustion, was this model a natural gas converted to propane or the other way around ? if so who ever converted it, did they adjust the gas valve according to specs? improper adjustment will cause sooting or hooking up a natural gas unit to propane will do this too, I will recommend using (Rutland White Off) to remove any soot from your glass, it works fantastic for this ! any ace hardware will carry it, please do not use windex or any other cleaner on the glass as it will more than likely leave a rainbow affect on your glass once the glass heats up, hope this was helpful to ya, please rate this solution, thanks agai
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It sounds like the gas valve is dropping out. Make sure the system is venting the exhaust(no restrictions). Then make sure all your wiring connections in the unit are tight. In a millivolt system if all wiring connections aren't tight and clean your circuit will drop in millivolts and the gas valve will drop out. The gas valve requires a certain millivolt to stay open. I hope I was of some assistance!! Good luck!!

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First, those of us on FixYa don't sell any products or appliances. Just information.

But to answer your question about electric baseboard heating ... It's the most inefficient and costly heating source you could use. With that said, a lot depends on the cubic footage of the area, as well as how well that area is insulated. This applies for electric, gas or oil heating. You rae not just heating square footage, you're wanting to heat cubic footage (i.e. Width x Length x Height = Cubic Footage). Assuming you have an 8 ft ceiling, the Cubic Footage would be (assuming a 9 ft ceiling) 7200 Cubic Feet. Based on that and if it was my home, I'd be installing a 20,000 - 25,000 Btu Vent-free (Flue-Less) Gas Heater, with built-in thermostat control. It could either be as a Free Standing, Vent-free Gas Fireplace System or simply a Wall Mounted Heater. One is decorative, as well as efficient and the other is simple and efficient. Plus, gas heat is a warm, moist heat that you feel very quickly and it's more comfortable than electric or oil heat. As a matter of fact, Vent-free Gas Heating Appliances are 99.9% efficient. And will work without electricity. Which is great during a Winter power outage. If you currently don't have Natural Gas at your home, then LPG (Liquid Propane Gas) is readily available.

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Here are the things that will cause a Vent-free Gas Fireplace to soot.

  • Not having the fireplace cleaned and serviced, at least annually by a qualified technician.
  • Misplaced logs that impinge the main burner flames.
  • Running a ceiling fan at the wrong speed and in the wrong direction while fireplace is burning.
  • Burning scented candles while burning the fireplace.
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  • Have the fireplace cleaned and serviced.
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  • Scented candles soot any way. Add the warm moist heat of the Gas Fireplace and they'll soot 50 times worse. The scent is not natural, it has an alcohol base like after shave & cologne. Stop burning scented candles. It has been proven that they greatly contribute to indoor air pollution.
  • Low gas pressure causes incomplete combustion, which causes the burner to soot. Have it checked by your propane provider.
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Hope this helps you solve your sooting problem. I woud really like to know how it works out for you.
Please let me know at americanhearthandhome1@yahoo.com

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