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Help me out in connecting a second PATA hard disk

i connected a second PATA hard disk but i cant boot my computer.''NTLDR missing alt+cltr+del to restart'' is shown. in BIOS i cant change the hard disk priority and boot priority.PATA hdd is shown havin the highest priority and i cant make my SATA hdd as the first priority  

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  • Nat Miller
    Nat Miller May 11, 2010

    Internal or External? Is it set to master or slave? Is your bios set to see either SATA or PATA? It looks like you computer is trying to use the drive you just installed as the boot drive. What brand is your drive? Western Digital and Seagate/Maxtor have tools to set up your drives.

  • chrispm May 11, 2010

    Have you tried updating the BIOS of your motherboard? Waht make and model is it?

  • pas_sal1990 May 11, 2010

    Have you tried changing the pin configuration on the pata hard disk drive to slave, and try putting the hard drive on the second connector of the ribbon

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Ntldr is file important for boot up and is present in main boot drive, so you can copy it from your sata hard drive to pata, it would at least boot up, also sometimes there may be a req of changing more than one bios option to boot from other drvi, try it

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After system recovery using recovery discs of "PowerSpec" error message "NTLDR is compressed PressCtrl Alt Del to restart" appears .How to fix it


When NTLDR is missing from your operating system it means that there is a problem with your boot loader, a bootstrap process that begins when you turn on the computer. A missing NTLDR means that your computer cannot boot to the operating system. This issue is only a problem on computers running Windows XP or previous operating systems as Windows 7 and Vista don't utilize NTLDR. Loose or Faulty IDE/EIDE hard disk drive cable. Failing to enable USB keyboard support in the BIOS. Many times this error is caused when the computer is attempting to boot from a non-bootable floppy disk or CD ROM First verify that no Floppy Diskette or CD is in the computer, unless you are attempting to boot from a diskette. Fixing the missing NTLDR is relatively easy so long as you have your installation disc.
Locate your Windows XP/2000 installation disc and place it in your CD/DVD ROM drive. If you don't have this disk, then you cannot proceed further. Restart your computer. When the computer restarts press any key on your keyboard when you are prompted, "Press any key to enter setup." Most computers are configured to boot to another device other than a hard drive. Since the Windows XP/2000 installation disk is bootable, you should see the prompt. However, if you don't see the prompt you may need to change your boot priority in your BIOS. To do so, enter the system BIOS by following the onscreen instructions upon startup. Then navigate to the Boot Priority menu and modify another device, such as a CD-ROM to boot prior to the hard drive. Then reboot your computer. After you have pressed any key, the Windows XP/2000 setup screen will appear. After loading, press the "R" key to repair the Windows installation. The screen will appear black. The computer requests which installation you would like to log in. Generally speaking, press "1" and "Enter." If you have more than one hard drive or more than one partition, the procedure may be different. You must know which hard drive or partition your Windows operating system is installed in. You are subsequently prompted for a password. If you haven't set up one up, you can just leave the query blank and press "Enter." The phrase "c:\WINDOWS>" and a blinking cursor subsequently appear. Type "copy d:\i386\ntldr c:\windows" (without quotes), where "D" is the letter of your CD/DVD ROM drive (your optical drive may be different, especially if you have more than one). Eject the CD from the drive and type "Exit" (without quotes) to restart your computer. The NTLDR file will be copied from the installation disc to your hard drive.

or If you've started your Windows XP computer and you see an error message to the effect that the "NTLDR" file is missing or corrupted, you've probably also noticed that the computer refuses to boot any further. This is because the NTLDR file is an integral part of the boot process and needs to be restored before the boot process can proceed normally.

Insert your Windows XP disc into your computer. Restart the computer and press any key on your keyboard when the message prompting you to do so appears. Press the "R" key to open the Recovery Console and then press "1" and "Enter" in order to select your operating system. Type in your Administrator password (if needed) and press "Enter." Type "copy d:\i386\ntldr c:\" and press "Enter" and then type "copy d:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\" and press "Enter." Restart your computer and let it boot up normally. Since the NTLDR is freshly restored, the computer boots up properly. Hope this helps.

Jan 16, 2013 | PC Desktops

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My computer lost ( ntlpd is missing) plus said press ctrl alt del it's not coming up.


Sounds like you've got some corrupted files. If you have your Windows disc, try a reinstall/repair or try to drop back to a previous restore point.

If those don't work, you might try to reformat/re-install your software. (backup your data if you can beforehand as reformatting will wipe all data from the drive).

This can even be a hardware problem, like the HD controller bad, which caused the file problem in the first place. Or a virus can cause such issues, which would make reformatting/reinstalling a good idea as well.

Make sure you have a defragment task running every month, if not every week. You can schedule to run at night or during the day, whenever you're not at the computer. If you turn it off when you're not using it, just leave it on that one day (or night) that the defragment needs to run... or start it manually before you go to sleep and unless it's a large drive, it should be done when you get up.

Good Luck!

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Jan 02, 2011 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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NTLDR is Missing Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to Restart Problem! No CD No Floppy to reboot! How to fix it?


its necessary to you a bootable cd or floppy system disk. ntldr is part of the hard disk partition data, it this partition if missing then you cannot open your system until you use bootable operating system.

Jul 15, 2009 | Compaq Evo D500 PC Desktop

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Ntldr is missing press ctrl alt del to restart cant install o/s


This problem may occur if the basic input/output system (BIOS) on your computer is outdated, or if one or more of the following Windows boot files are missing or damaged: Ntldr
Ntdetect.com
Boot.ini To resolve this issue, verify that the BIOS on your computer is current, and then use one or more of the following methods, as appropriate to your situation, to repair the Windows 2000 startup environment.
Verify That the BIOS on the Computer Is Current loadTOCNode(3, 'summary'); Make sure that the latest revision for BIOS is installed on the computer. Contact the computer manufacturer to inquire about how to obtain, and then install the latest BIOS update that is available for the computer.
Method 1: Use a Boot Disk to Start the Computer loadTOCNode(3, 'summary');
  1. Create a Windows 2000 boot disk that contains the following files: Ntldr
    Ntdetect.com
    Boot.ini
    Ntbootdd.sys For more information about how to create a boot disk, click the following article numbers to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 301680 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301680/ ) How to create a boot disk for an NTFS or FAT partition in Windows 101668 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/101668/ ) How to use a Windows boot disk to prevent boot failure
  2. Modify the Boot.ini file to point to the correct hard disk controller and to the correct volume for your Windows installation. For more information about how to create a boot disk, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 311578 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311578/ ) How to edit the Boot.ini file in Windows 2000
  3. Insert the boot disk into the computer's floppy disk drive, and then restart the computer.
  4. Copy the Ntldr file, the Ntdetect.com file, and the Boot.ini file from the boot disk to the system partition of the local hard disk.
Method 2: Use the Recovery Console loadTOCNode(3, 'summary');
  1. Use the Windows 2000 Setup disks to restart the computer, or use the Windows 2000 CD-ROM to restart the computer.
  2. At the Welcome to Setup screen, press R to repair the Windows 2000 installation.
  3. Press C to repair the Windows 2000 installation by using the Recovery Console.
  4. Type the number that corresponds to the Windows installation that you want to repair, and then press ENTER. For example, type 1, and then press ENTER. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 229716 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229716/ ) Description of the Windows Recovery Console
  5. Type the Administrator password, and then press ENTER.
  6. Type map, and then press ENTER. Note the drive letter that is assigned to the CD-ROM drive that contains the Windows 2000 CD-ROM.
  7. Type the following commands, pressing ENTER after you type each one, where drive is the drive letter that you typed in step 4 of "Method 2: Use the Recovery Console," of this article: copy drive:\i386\ntldr c:\

    copy drive:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\If you are prompted to overwrite the file, type y, and then press ENTER.

    NOTE: In these commands, there is a space between the ntldr and c:\, and between ntdetect.com and c:\.
  8. Type the following command, and then press ENTER: type c:\Boot.iniA list similar to the following list appears: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect If you receive the following message, the Boot.ini file may be missing or damaged: The system cannot find the file or directory specified.
  9. If the Boot.ini file is missing or damaged, create a new one. To do so, follow these steps:
    1. Use a text editor, such as Notepad or Edit.com, to create a boot loader file similar to the following boot loader file: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 102873 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/102873/ ) Boot.ini and ARC path naming conventions and usage 301680 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301680/ ) How to create a boot disk for an NTFS or FAT partition in Windows
    2. Save the file to a floppy disk as Boot.ini.

      NOTE: If you used Notepad to create the file, make sure that the .txt extension is not appended to the Boot.ini file name.
    3. Type the following command at the Recovery Console command prompt to copy the Boot.ini file from the floppy disk to the computer: copy a:\Boot.ini c:\
  10. Type exit, and then press ENTER. The computer restarts.

Jul 07, 2009 | Compaq Evo D500 PC Desktop

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NTLDR is missing




Reference number: CH000465
NTLDR is Missing. Issue:NTLDR is Missing.
Related errors:
Below are the full error messages that may be seen when the computer is booting.
NTLDR is Missing
Press any key to restart
Boot: Couldn't find NTLDR
Please insert another disk
NTLDR is missing
Press Ctrl Alt Del to Restart
Cause:
  1. Computer is booting from a non-bootable source.
  2. Computer hard disk drive is not properly setup in BIOS.
  3. Corrupt NTLDR and/or NTDETECT.COM file.
  4. Misconfiguration with the boot.ini file.
  5. Attempting to upgrade from a Windows 95, 98, or ME computer that is using FAT32.
  6. New hard disk drive being added.
  7. Corrupt boot sector / master boot record.
  8. Seriously corrupted version of Windows 2000 or Windows XP.
  9. Loose or Faulty IDE/EIDE hard disk drive cable.
You can go to these sites to view solutions (to much to post here) Very easy to understand:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

May 22, 2009 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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Fujitsu Siemens Scenic T on windows 2000 Pro SP4


to fix it:
u should boot up with windows 2000 cd

go to repair windows then go recovery console from cd rom
now u'r in dos mode:
if u'r cd rom drive is d: and u'r hard disk is c:

just type this:

c:\copy d:\i386\ntldr
it's ntldr not ntdlr
then type:
c:\exit
u'r pc will restart and everything should work fine.

Hope this Helps. Regards Khushroo

Mar 09, 2009 | Fujitsu Siemens PC Desktops

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Recovery reinstall can't restart - "NTLDR is compressed"


you have a complex problem or a simple one! you may need to provide more details as we go through this (I'll try my best)

basically your system is looking in the wrong place or simply can't access the system partition (where your windows installation files are) and it could be as simple as removing a forgotten floppy disk from the floppy drive or it could be complex as to be a bios issue that may require firmware update.

let's start by checking the obvios:

1.remove any floppy disk if you have any in the floppy drive and test.
2. go into your bios and check the boot order, for now make sure your first boot device is your hard drive (the order can be changed at a later time if needed)

first explain clearly how you got the ntldr is missing error.
how do you say you completed the installation from the recovery disk?
at what point you get the cltr alt del message after you have reinstalled the os, does it really complete the installation?
did you check if your device has the master boot record protected while you were doing the installation... make sure the mbr is writable before you start the installation. (check your bios and set it accordingly).

your recovery disk does have a compressed image of your system as it was when you purchase your computer. and that's normal.. if you did not do a backup of your files or do not have the installation cd's for your applications you pretty much have lost everything at this point but the operating system and the default programs that are part of the image on your recovery disk, and that was expected with the procedure you conducted.

post your findings and the answer and we will follow up with you.

Dec 06, 2008 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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NTOSKRNL.EXE missing


NTLDR is missing  Press Ctrl Alt Del to Restart

----Windows XP users Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer. When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key. Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows. Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter. You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password. Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter, which in this case is "e." This letter may be different on your computer.
copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\ copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.

Oct 19, 2008 | PC Desktops

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My compaq desktop computer wont start up it keeps saying NTLDR missing


you have to repair the operating system or re-install it

Aug 16, 2008 | Compaq PC Desktops

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NTLDR is missing. Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to restart


NTLDR MISSING PRESS CTRL+ALT+DEL TO SESTART. WEN I DO THEN WINDOW WITH ALL THE SET UP COMES. PLEASE HELP!!1

Apr 24, 2008 | Compaq Evo D500 PC Desktop

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