Question about Cosco First Ride Deluxe
This is a good example of abuse
When I've asked for a review of unlocked FixYas I ask Staff to do the review. Its their choice. I'm the last one to make that decision. If they leave it, its been reviewed and the logs show it as such. I've asked them to find a way to lock it by Staff with a lable as such. That would put an end to much of this.
I know there are vote angels who vote willy nilly without any validation. When the upvote is valid to the solution I have no problem with it being upvoted; to make that clearer.
There is rampant abuse though, just for kicks look down Scott's other unlocked FixYas and see which ones you think are valid solutions or just plain BS. This is what Eks is burned out over specifically.
I stated to Lauren on these when I review them and I'll state the same to you, if the answer deserves a FixYa I leave it alone. If its only helpful leads to a possible solution but is not the solution I downvote it to that, if it BS I downvote it to TFT if its collaborative abuse I email staff about it and let them handle it.
On my own unlocked votes I just ask staff to review. If they think they should be removed I ask them to. I've asked Lauren to find a way subsequent to a staff review that Staff be able to lock it and get it out of the mix.
It troubles me some about this authority we have and I know why we have it, its Peer Review. But, it needs to be discussed in the Lounge a few times a year and its been a good six months or more since this has been battered around. This helps the new people understand the nature of its use and its abuse.
That is all,
Thank you worldvet. That is what I wanted to know. In the Navy I was dispossed of a citation for work I did while having to write a last will every week in favor of a superior that was in Kansas during the entire 90 day SpecOp! The crew actually gave a gasp during the award ceremony when the red-faced LPO accepted the honor. But that was my award -the gasp. My peers who knew. Had it been a posthumous award I would never have had that privilege. Not to compare that with this but just to show you my mindset. Later the squadron commander apologized for not knowing the ship's crew manifest when putting names on awards. your friend, Steve
Posted on Jan 02, 2009
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Two scenarios come to mind immediately: routers and bad IP detection.
As I've discussed before, a router allows several computers to share a single internet connection. One side effect of doing so is that all the computers that are sharing that connection appear on the internet as having the same IP address. The internet IP address actually belongs to the router, and it manages the routing the appropriate data to and from the appropriate computer behind it.
If you're in a home or small business that uses a router to share an internet connection, then any of the other computers could have voted and appeared as having come from the same IP address your computer would.
If you're connecting from a larger facility, say a school or corporation, the same issue can arise. Many facilities connect their internal network to the internet through a set of routers. A company of several thousand might appear as only a handful of IP addresses on the internet. If someone else within the company voted, it's quite possible that you might appear as the same IP address when you attempt to vote later.
"Using just the IP address to counter voter fraud and other types of abuse is common because it's easy." And then there's AOL.
When last I checked, I believe AOL puts all of its subscribers behind the equivalent of a collection of routers. Therefore when you as an AOL user connect to a web site you may be using the same IP address as some other AOL subscriber who came before you.
There's another problem that could be at play here as well.
If you're behind a router, your IP address is an IP address on your local network, not the internet. Most consumer routers use the 192.168.1.x range. In fact, most will start assigning IP addresses at 192.168.1.1, then 192.168.1.2, then 3 and so on.
As a result there are thousands of machines out there at IP address 192.168.1.1 on their local network.
If the voting abuse software attempts to use the IP address of the machine rather than the IP address of the machine's connection to the web site, then it'll just be wrong. The first person with an IP of 192.168.1.1 might be able to vote, but all that follow would be seen as coming from the same address.
It's very unlikely, but it is one additional way that the voting abuse detection scheme might fail.
Using just the IP address to counter voter fraud and other types of abuse is common because it's easy. As you can see, that often has the unintended side-effect of blocking more than just a single abuser. Unfortunately blocking an individual computer for these types of accesses is difficult - at least doing so in a way that isn't trivial to circumvent is difficult. The most common alternate approach is to require registration and login to vote, which naturally reduces the number of voters as people are reluctant to jump through the additional hoops.
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