This is a good example of abuse
http://www.fixya.com/support/t1235491-way_go_right
When I've asked for a review of unlocked FixYas I ask Staff to do the review. Its their choice. I'm the last one to make that decision. If they leave it, its been reviewed and the logs show it as such. I've asked them to find a way to lock it by Staff with a lable as such. That would put an end to much of this.
I know there are vote angels who vote willy nilly without any validation. When the upvote is valid to the solution I have no problem with it being upvoted; to make that clearer.
There is rampant abuse though, just for kicks look down Scott's other unlocked FixYas and see which ones you think are valid solutions or just plain BS. This is what Eks is burned out over specifically.
I stated to Lauren on these when I review them and I'll state the same to you, if the answer deserves a FixYa I leave it alone. If its only helpful leads to a possible solution but is not the solution I downvote it to that, if it BS I downvote it to TFT if its collaborative abuse I email staff about it and let them handle it.
On my own unlocked votes I just ask staff to review. If they think they should be removed I ask them to. I've asked Lauren to find a way subsequent to a staff review that Staff be able to lock it and get it out of the mix.
It troubles me some about this authority we have and I know why we have it, its Peer Review. But, it needs to be discussed in the Lounge a few times a year and its been a good six months or more since this has been battered around. This helps the new people understand the nature of its use and its abuse.
That is all,
Worldvet
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Jan 02, 2009
- I rated your reply to get it out of the unanswered pool which is where these things go.
I'm just as fed up as Ekse is, not with the staff response, but with the constant flood of more and more BS experts who think they can so easily usurp our system and vote one another.
As I said to begin with, if its a fixed solution and an expert can use a hand, I'll give them one, that's Peer Review. But Peer Review also means doing something about abuse when you see it and not looking the other way.
I had a clearance in the Navy and you never knew when you were being tested, not the same here but the need to do the right thing is there.
On SE, I don't buy it, if he didn't ask the Staff to remove it, then its blatant abuse a lot of abuse. Even if it was his wife why didn't he ask Staff to correct it?
A lot of his other FixYas are just plain laughable. No one gives fixyas for "check the FAQ page." Maybe a Helpful, maybe but usually the customer won't even vote on it. Any idiot knows to check tech support, call for help or look at the FAQ pages. And FAQ pages don't have solutions; they rarely do otherwise there would be no need for FixYa in the first place.
If you start poking around and you use your intuition to decide who and when to do this on you will likely come across the buddy voting its like a web. The thing to do is play it out completely and then email it all to Lauren. If you have been giving peer review and correcting FixYas to Helpfuls and then find the buddy ring with multiple user names, email that to Lauren and tell her what you've voted on already to some extent I never bother with full details. Its all in the logs anyway. The friggin idiots here don't believe there is a paper trail on their actions.
Jan 02, 2009
- I know the truley evil sister thing. I've got one completely off tilt The other has been way off tilt for a long time. Best of luck in your case.
As to Mike. Nothing would surprise we with him. I don't answer car or TV stuff although I'm qualified. I don't feel qualified to lean an owner down a troubleshooting path over email.
Yes, he can help make this better. Anyone with a deep background in HTML, SSI and Javascript could too. For a long time, I believed DL1 would, but he talks too much, given his recent examples of how to write bad code. Man, you never ever let that knowledge loose.
I do hope it all works out for you in the short run now. When it comes to helping staff with self policing you may be of help, it just depends on how your intuition works or doesn't. Not everyone has this gift. Which it is.
Let me know how you make out.
Jan 02, 2009
- How did things go? Or, is it to early today to ask?
Sounds a lot like a divorce a friend is going through. Trouble is they have millions tied up in investments and property and she effectively tied up his property to see that he couldn't do anything with it that would raise him real money. He still has a Motel that I've spent a good deal of time rewiring the phone system and getting him over to a digital PBX from the 1988 Beast that was in there, until he just told me to stop that he didn't know when he get to pay me. At least he wins little wars like getting his Cessna 172 back to he can go flying when he wants and that provides real solace. Its just a war he is going through.
Jan 03, 2009
- Yep. Sounds just like my friends divorce. If you can prove a crime than its best to pursue that in a criminal court environment. These other courts will not tread there.
I'm glad to see the discussion on Peer Review take up an audience, especially of this character. The new members lurking over the thread will gain a lot of insight. I know I did when I first witnessed this topic a long time ago.
Just watched Frost Nixon. I know a lot of members in the Academy, mostly writers and actor/writers and they always send me copies of good movies from their Screener DVDs. Not a bad movie. Directed by Ron Howard. It intrigues me to know why he chose to do this film. The acting was very very good.
Jan 03, 2009
- I always forget how shy I was the first time I eventually entered a chat thread. I know we have many on FixYa like this. But you got to love those lurkers. They get it through osmosis and eventually a thread like the Introducece Yourself heps people to break the ice. The current Introduce Yourself thread is the longest lived one I've witness on this board. I've bumped it twice to get in front of the new guys when they speak up.
Take HonestAbe for example. Who would have know he suffered through the FFM days. I was glad I was on a Mac at the time and chuckled at my friends who were building monster boxes. What an anchor those things were. I came so close to doing the same with the TI-99 it isn't funny. Friends of mine who adopted the Amiga still used those things way into the 90s.
Anyway, it will be interesting to hear from Lauren next week. The more voices she gets for a comment popup on any IA vote will be a big improvement to the system and help them to cleanup after Ninja downvoters.
Good luck with your court case, I do think a criminal attorney is a good choice at your point in this. Especially if they'll take it on contingency. There will have to be a lot of bucks involved though. Maybe just the value of the house will be enough.
Anyway, I've seen my friend suffer through three heart attacks from the stress of his divorce. She's had him beat up four times. Once the judge found out about this, it stopped and she too has perjured herself a bunch of times. I'm on the witness list so I get all the skinny for that reason mostly. Besides the guy HAD 3.5 Mil in assets and he hopes to come out of it with at least 1Mil and his collection of antique cars. You should see his vintage airplanes. They are the bomb. He flew for the CIA during the Bay of Pigs fiasco and has some really cool stories. I had to promise him to not disclose what he actually did before he'd tell me anything. I convinced him I had know a black ops veteran when I saw one and had him pegged. Eventually he told me his story after that. He can't even get VA benefits, but I've seen Black Ops guys who were sheep dipped get the benefits eventually, you just have to go through the Senate Veteran Affiars committee to get them. Once the CIA finds out about it, they sanitize the records and hand over the documents. I had one veteran who's story I wanted to write so bad it hurt inside have a General from the Air Force fly out to LA to address the VA Regional Office. A week later he was 100% and got full SSDI too. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy and I had to agree to never tell his story which would make a great movie. Too bad, nearly as good as Bridge Over the River Kwai. That whole affair got me the real juice in DC. You can bet I took advantage of it whenever the NSA was trying to put the scare on me. I told them I already had NDAs on file and would sign another one if I was getting too close to the truth. That's when they went away for the time being. They didn't want me to know how close I was to accuracy or not. There were so many actual attempts to rescue POWs that were/are MIA under Ronald Reagan. Its a shame that the ones who were gotten out were complete menatl basket cases. The VA was hiding them as John Does in Nursing Homes. All this was published in a major national article that I can talk about it with authority. There were about four other journalists who had uncovered the same truth. The poor former POW (enlisted) who started talking is still sitting in a DC jail with no charges against him. This is a case of litterally having the key thrown away. The few of us who knew of him could actually visit him in jail, but he had made a video tape before his arrest and it got out and into our hands before CIA or NSA could do much with it. I even had a copy of a letter from the Director of the FBI discussing it. I had it well hidden in another reporter's possession. Funny, it kept coming up missing from two reporters briefcases and they were always asking me to have a color copy made which inevitably got stolen again. How and why mine was never stolen was something we all scratched our heads over. I had gotten the juice I mentioned above and it worked for me. That's the only explanation.
But, as I had stated in the thread I was so burned out from writing about wrongful deaths in the VA system I couldn't cope with handling the families anymore. They always thought I was their ticket to justice. But you can only do so much as a journalist and is never enough to provide justice to the families. People lost their careers over these cases and I though that was justice, but families who lost sons and daughters will never feel that justice has been served.
Any how, that's enough from me off the board for now.
Jan 04, 2009
- copy and paste this link if its not active to get an idea of what type of solution to vote yourself up with using buddys.
http://www.fixya.com/support/t316766-reprogram_nokia_6680
Pay attention to this expert:
dilipbagdi
fixya.com/users/dilipbagdi
Throughout his entire section of FixYas nearly every other one or higher is unlocked. Give them a look yourself. Those are not Angel Votes but when it is so rampant it is usually buddy voting or self rating by creating fleeting profiles.
Jan 04, 2009
- I see. It was so blatant from this guy. I only looked at every other on every other page of FixYas and most were unlocked.