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Hi, I've just purchased a Metz 60CT4 flash from a professional photographer.  She said it was new, and it looks new.  It came with the battery pack.  I test fired it a few times after I purchased it and was really happy with it, charged the battery pack over night, and that seemed to work (there were initially a red and a green LED lit, in the morning there was only a green LED lit).  The following evening I set it to 1/256 manually and took some shots with my camera set at a 1 second exposure to allow me time to press the flash's test button (since I'm waiting for the sync cord that I ordered yesterday to arrive).  After taking about 8 pictures I found that the flash would no longer fire.  The green "ready" LED didn't come on.  The red LED by the battery pack's "on/off" switch blinks red when it's on (it always did this, is that normal, is it supposed to blink)?  I noticed that the battery pack, when you remove the battery, has a jumper that was set to "dry."  There were two other locations it could be in, "Pb" and I forget the other.  But I was thinking it needed to be in "Pb" because it's a sealed lead-acid battery.  I couldn't find any information on that jumper in the manual.  Does anyone know what these settings are for?  After the flash was off for a long time I tried turning it back on, and the green ready indicator lit up but the flash would not fire.  I got a good deal on the flash so I don't really want to return it, but at the same time if it's going to cost a lot to repair, maybe it isn't worth keeping it.  Does anyone have some info to share?  I really want to know the proper setting for the "dry" "Pb" jumper, and to know if it's normal for the red "on" LED (near the battery pack's on/off switch) to be blinking when it's on instead of steady-on.  One other thing--there is a backlight that lights up the aperture setting on the flash head, but the film speed and distance are not backlit.  I'm suspecting that this is not normal, possibly a burnt-out backlight?  Can anyone confirm this?  Can you recommend a place to take it or direct me on how to take it apart/fix it?  I'm an electrical engineer and have experience with electronics, just not with flashes.  Does anyone have a repair manual that I can get for this?  Thanks & regards.

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  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    One more comment: I tested the battery out of the battery pack with my volt meter and it indicated around 7 volts (I forget the exact number, but to me this seems like the problem is not the battery itself).

  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    I've read the manual already, as I said in my post.

  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    thanks, I actually found that ebay post myself and purchased the manual before I read your message. I don't think the battery is the problem because my voltmeter read over 6 volts. I can test it more thoroughly when I get home though. I'm waiting for an answer to all of my questions, haven't gotten that yet.

  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    thanks, but this isn't a hot-shoe flash and as I said in my post I don't have the sync cord for it yet (it's on order). The plug is made to fit more complex adapters so I have to wait for the PC sync cord to arrive before testing it that way.

  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    So does someone have one of these who can confirm that the red LED near the on/off switch on the battery pack should normally be steady on?  I'll do a more thorough battery test tonight.  Still waiting for answers to my other questions in the original post...

  • 4thDimension Dec 30, 2008

    According to someone I contacted on ebay who was selling one of these, it's normal for the LED to blink when in the on position.  Also, the jumpers: "dry" for a dryfit battery (the battery should be marked "dryfit"), "ni" for a ni-cad battery, "pb" for a lead acid battery.  It is correct for the red and green LEDs to be on during charging and for the red one to go out when the battery is fully charged.

  • 4thDimension Dec 31, 2008

    Update: It's not the battery. More testing last night revealed that the battery maintains above 6v under load from the flash unit. In addition, another known good 6v battery was used. The red "on" LED still blinks on and off with a good working voltage (6.48 V) under load, indicating that it's normal for it to blink. The advice about using the "Pb" setting appears to be incorrect for this battery. Even though the battery contains lead, it's called a "dryfit" battery by the German manufacturer, and the correct position is "dry." The charging circuit and cap are in the battery pack. I'm not convinced that it's a cap problem b/c I don't have confidence in an "expert" who doesn't qualify their reply. Has anyone who is registered as an expert here actually repaired this particular unit? Is it common for the capacitor to go out when it was just working great and had rapid refresh times a few seconds ago? It seems to me that it is just as likely to be a burnt out transistor or another component, or possibly the flash head itself. Measured output voltage to the flash head was 125VDC and it still didn't light the "flash ready" light or fire. I'm not sure what the trigger voltage is supposed to be. I get the feeling that the answers I'm getting are just assumptions and that no one has actually worked on this unit, and as a result I'm answering my questions with my own research and troubleshooting.

  • 4thDimension Dec 31, 2008

    I'm planning to test the capacitor but my tester is buried in the garage somewhere and it'll be a couple of days probably before I can find it and do a test (it being new year's eve!).  Happy new year!  :)

  • 4thDimension Dec 31, 2008

    It was manufactured in 1999, by the way.

  • 4thDimension Jan 02, 2009

    OK, this is my last update.  I checked the cap and it tested good for ESR and holding a voltage.  I decided not to spend more time on it, and since it was only a matter of a few days from when I purchased it, the person I got it from is going to let me return it for a refund.  Happy new  year, everyone!

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The red LED flashing means that the flash unit is charging up to get ready. When the charge is complete, the green light will go on. So the blinking red is normal. The problem here is that you are not getting a full charge. It is possible that the capacitor inside has become somewhat defective and will not hold a complete charge anymore. Generally though, the symptom would be different, in that the "charging" time would increase significantly rather than the unit working OK for a while then not working.

I haven't used one of these for a while. but the unit is a good one I would recommend to anyone.

If you have access to a capacitor tester, I would check for value and leakage. Report your results here and in the meantime, I'll research this a bit more.

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It sounds like a capacitor problem on the flash. The flash bulb couldn't hold enough voltage to trigger the flash. It might have been damaged by over voltage due to overcharging the battery. In addition, when do consecutive manual flash, it doesn't supply enough power to the flash circuitry that's why it doesn't trigger. If your using a lead acid battery, u need to use the PB jumper. Manually test the output voltage for the flash by using a bulb with same voltage output of your camera to check if it really is distributing enough power to trigger the flash. Otherwise, claim your warranty.

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Hello and welcome to FixYa!,

Try replacing the batteries as they may be dead!

If this doesn't FixYa! problem then it is obvious that it is the Flash Circuit!

Hope this is your solution --P3NGYJ03

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Tle link is to the manual directly .click the link for ur device manual
http://www.fixya.com/support/p16764-metz_mecablitz_60ct4_ttl_flash/manual-17939/page-1

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  • technodeal Dec 30, 2008

    Try to short out the flash and see if the flash flashes.

    Remove flash from camera.
    New or fresh bateries installed.
    Get wire with insulation and remove both end bare to 1/4"
    Turn on flash and wait until light turn green or ready.
    Touch one lead to center of flash pin, touch other end to the outside(rail on the side) pin.

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How old is that Flash?
In my opinion, battery is dry and flash circuit is OK.

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    Shahid Electronics Dec 30, 2008

    You should have service manual and can buy from HERE to work on this flash unit.

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    battery test with volt meter might give you some result but I think battery can not hold current ( ampere)so test your battery on some kind of load like 6 or 9 volt torch bulb etc.

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The blinking red light is an indication that the battery pack is below a useable voltage value, test your charger 1st for proper voltage then the if that is ok the battery pack is the problem.

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