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Heater for Dimension One spa causing circuit breaker to open

I checked the resistance on each leg to the pump to ground to be about 1k ohms

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Resistance on heating elements should be 10.8 or more. if it isn't that high you need a new element.

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Maybe an open circuit at igniter?
Direct power at igniter, does not make it problem free when installed on the heater.
So many variables...
burned fuse for igniter, bad wire connection, broken wire within sheathing,etc,
all of these will cause a resistance change in ohms. Temperature is read by Heater logics in ohms resistance - both set temperature and actual temperature. So if resistance is off, heater may not work. Could be cracked igniter, or shorting to ground. When you remove the heater from igniter operation, by bypassing and installing a direct alternate power source, you are removing all self test features and safety aspect of heater.
FL4 usually means bad igniter - replace it.

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How do you check if therostat is bad


There is a device called a thermistor mounted into the header that will change its resistance to electrical current depending on the temperature of the water. These usually have two gray wires that attach into the control panel. Unplug the wires and put an ohm meter on them. At 80 degrees should read about 93 ohms. At 70 degrees should be at 118 ohms.
If you get infinite ohms you have an open circuit, if you get 0 ohms you have a short. Either way replace the sensor.

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Can I change out a Hayward H400ID with an electric heater for the spa only? If so what electric heater product brand would you recommned. Raypak?


Hayward has manuals for each type heater, gas and electric.
http://www.hayward-pool.com/prd/In-Ground-Pool-Manuals_10201_10551_14502_-1___I.htm
Hayward also has contact page, and can probably recommend correct change-over product.

You want to switch from propane to heat-pump type.

There are likely 3 areas of difference. Read each manual and generally look for 1) unit size and capability to match spa 2) pipe connections and sizes 3) Electrical requirement

From electrical standpoint, You need GFCI-protected line from circuit breaker box, or GFCI (arc-fault) breaker. This will prevent electrocution risk around spa.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html

Wire sizes are based on volts and watt-rating of heater.
Each electrical device has rating plate showing volts and watts.
3500 watts divided by 240 volts = 14.5 amps so install double-pole 20 amp breaker and use 12 gauge wire.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html

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Pilot stays lit, pump runs, burner does not light, no gas pressure detected at burner. Waht could be the problem please


Thank you for posting your question here on Fixya.com.


First you will need to get a hold of a digital or analog multimeter and set it for the lowest range of Ohms you can. Your safety circuit is a string of several switches all strung together in a row with the gas valve at the end and the beginning of said string. Any one switch being open or a bad connection anywhere in the circuit and the heater will not fire.

You task is to remove one end of the circuit from the valves TH or TT post and put one end of you meter on that wire and the other end on the TH/PP terminal. It will likely read infinite resistance. Leave one meter lead where it is and remove the other. Follow the circuit from the connected lead up to the first switch. Check continuity from the lead left connected to both sides of the switch. If there is continuity to both sides the switch is fine. Keep moving from switch to switch until you find the bad switch or connection. There may be more than one. When the circuit is working properly and there is nothing within the heater to cause it to shut off you should have 5 ohms or less across the entire circuit. Once you get the reading to that level the heater will work as it should

If you are not familiar with the process I described you would be better served hiring a pool technician to perform this repair as you can cause significant damage to the heater if you do not repair it properly.


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Thank you for posting your question here on Fixya.com.


Use a digital or analog multimeter to test the heater. Start with voltage to the element probes inside the control box. They will protrude from the S.S. pipe into the control area. Confirm you have 230VAC line to line and then confirm 115VAC from each post to ground. Any variation of more than 10% from those numbers would suggest you have electrical issues.

If you have acceptable voltage to the element and it still will not heat turn all the power off and disconnect one of the line leads from the element post. Use the lowest ohm scale on the meter to measure resistance across the element. A typical reading is somewhere around 10 - 15 ohms...a very low resistance reading. Anything above 20 indicates problems with the element. What you will likely find is an element with infinite or some other reading WAY higher than even 20 ohms. Replacing an electric heater element in a spa heater is a fairly typical repair.

If this answer does not fix your problem, please comment with additional details prior to rating the answer. Positive feedback is appreciated once your problem is solved!


John

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Is this a recent development? Is the pump on a shared circuit or does it have its own breaker?

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