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Anonymous Posted on Jul 04, 2017

I have a rinnai tankless closed loope hot water heater. it has a recirculating pump and a 6 gallon hotwater heater installed per rinnai's requirements. the 6 gallon h/w heater is electric and pulls alot of amps/watts costing nearly $100/mo for the gas rinnai. it was recommended to unplug the 6 gal water heater, and install an aquastat. Is this a sound solution. Does the aquastat pull alot of electricity. Is there another solution

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  • Posted on May 25, 2009

SOURCE: does grundfos rcp96 pump work with bosch 2400 eo tankless heater?

What is your reason to have a recirc line on your water heater does the heater sit to far away from a certain fixture? If you put a pump on your tankless waterheater then your heater will continually fire till the call for hot water is stopped. Yes you normally do need a seperate line installed for a recirc line usually from the water heater to the farthest fixture away. If your problem is taking to long to get hot water then I suggest installing a second heater closer to problem area.

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  • Posted on Sep 18, 2011

SOURCE: I have an instant hotwater system with the futher

Maybe I am not understanding your problem exactly, but if you have the instant hotwater system installed it should be measuring the temperature of the water in the hot water line and if it drops below the set level it should open the hot water side until the temperature is reached. If it was installed correctly it puts the hot water back into the cold water line so it isn't wasted.

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For electric tankless:
Copy following links for illustrated walk-thru and wire-breaker size calculation for electric:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-Tankless-electric-water-heater.html

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Bad PC board.
Bad sensor.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Bosch_Descaling-heat-exchanger.pdf

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/No-Error-Code.pdf

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Service bulletin says: "the only way of assuring protection is to completely remove the heater during those times the area may experience freezing temperatures.

There are tankless with built-in heater for exterior installation.
Check your manual, or add a comment with specific model number and maybe I can find the information.

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http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Air-vent-added-to-return-22.jpg
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http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Tankless-maintenance.pdf
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html
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Takes too long for hot water.

You need a recirculating line. You will have to hire a plumber to run a water line from the farthest fixture or to the fixture you are concerned about on the hot side and return it back to the water heater. this will cause hot water to constantly run throught the hot water line (via the recirculating line) and when you want to draw water from the fixture, you will already have hot water right at the line.
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