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Moen positemp cartridge won't come out of brass body housing

I've pulled ,tried to rotate, squirted silicone lubricant It doesn't move . I first removed the retainer clip

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If the clip has been removed it will come out. these things get incredibly tough to remove. Moen does sell a little puller just for these. I have used a socket with the screw in the stem to act as a puller.

If you have the water off AND your sure your have the correct new cartridge you can give the valve a little heat to help soften things up a touch. Use a heat gun with caution

Please rate this response and good luck, Phil

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I used ViceGrips on the shaft, and stuck a straightblade screwdriver between the ViceGrips and the brass shell. A little prying, and it popped out.

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You need a #1225 replacement cartridge. Pop the cap off of the handle. Use phillips screwdriver to remove the handle screw. Pull the handle off. Next, unscrew the two screws holding the cover plate on. After removing plate, there should be two integral stops, one on each side of the valve. Close the valves using a straight slot screwdriver. Pull on the brass cartridge spindle to ensure that the water is off. Remove the stop tube, which is a chrome cylinder at the center of the valve body. Look for a brass retainer clip at the top of the cylindrical portion of the valve body where the handle connects. It has a small hole and after you pull it out, you will see that it horse shoe shaped. Use your pliers or an awl stuck through the hole to pull the clip out. Note the position of your cartridge. There is a notch on the end of one side of the brass spindle at the center of the cartridge. Make note of its position. If you install it and get hot and cold reversed, just take the handle back off, and spin the brass spindle 180 degrees. The replacement cartridge comes with a white plastic tool designed to make removal easier. Use it. After loosening with the plastic tool, take your pliers and grab the brass stem. Pull as straight as you can. If cartridge will not budge, you might need a Moen cartridge removal tool. Do not spray with WD-40 or Liquid Wrench unless you like that taste in your water. If your clip won't go back on, it's because you didn't align the two ears on the cartridge. The ears should be at three o'clock and six o'clock. The cartridge must also be pushed in all the way. Good luck!

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How do you remove the old cartridge pn# 1222 after you have removed the temp. limit stop kit?


If you are referring to a Posi Temp cartridge they can be tough to remove from the valve body but there is a specific Moen 'puller' tool available. Basicially, once the 'U' shaped brass clip, which holds the cartridge on place is removed, the old cartridge (including the brass stem) will pull out completely. However they are frequently stuck in place and require some force to break free. A small plastic tool is included with the new cartridge - it isn't worth much, IMO but at least try it. Slide it over the stem so that it fits snuggly against the old cartridge and twist it with channel locks or crescent wrench. You may be successful in getting the cartridge to turn, one it does it will usually then pull out. Grasp the brass stem with vise grips/channel locks and pull the cartridge straight out. If it doesn't budge, you will likely need the specific tool mentioned above which screws into the stem (where the screw for the handle would normally fit) and is tightened down against the valve body. The pressure applied is similar to an auto. brake puller, pulling the valve out. Be careful in exerting any pressure against the valve body because it may not be adequately fastened to blocking inside the wall cavity and too much or excessive pulling may cause damage to the water supply lines.

Make sure before the install the new cartridge the valve body is clean and free of any build up. I usually take a little emery cloth and clean it out then flush the valve with water. Also use plenty of additional silicon/plumbers grease on all the black rubber seals before inserting it . Make sure it is not upside down and fits into the valve body all the way. The brass retaining clip is then re-inserted. Be careful not to lose it as a replacement is not included with the new valve and may not be easy to come by. Good luck!

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How do I remove the cartrige from the valve?


Assuming you have a single handle valve, Moen has 2 types of cartridges. The Posi-Temp (replacement cartridge # 1222) turns on and off simply by turning the handle left to right and right to left. The Moentrol (replacement cartridge #1225B) turns on by pulling on it. Handle style does not aid in identification.

Buy your new cartridge before you start and buy genuine Moen! OEM cartridges can give Moen a bad name.

Once the water to the valve is off, remove the handle.

The procedure is the same for either type of valve so use the link below as a reference.

Firmly grab the temperature limit stop and pull it off the valve body. Using pliers, pull out the brass retainer clip. Place the notched end of the white plastic tool that came with your new cartridge onto the old cartridge and rotate as needed until completely seated on cartridge. Put a wrench onto the squared end of the white tool and turn back and forth several times. Remove the tool, grab the brass center of the cartridge with pliers and pull the cartridge out.

Briefly turn the water on ond off to flush the valve of any possible lingering particulate.

Insert new cartridge and use white tool to assure cartridge is all the way in then use the squared end to rotate the cartridge as necessary into an alignment position to reinstall the retainer clip.

http://www.moen.com/shared/pdf/3170pt.pdf

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cartridge # 1222,i am not aware of the # for the puller, i just asked for a moen puller.be sure to get one that pull's pos'i cartridge's. because the older type puller will not pull positemp easy.and while you have cart out run water to flush valve body out.good luck!

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The answer is to take some grit cloth/very fine sandpaper and clean the inside of the spout body. Wipe clean. I would also suggest replacing the O-Rings on the faucet body, but at the very least wipe the O-rings and faucet body clean.
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2. If it's dripping, the you need a new cartridge. You can get them for FREE from the hardware store if you have the old cartridge to trade them. The problem is that Moen cartridges are water-sealed into place and you need a special tool to break that water seal. The special tool (just a tiny piece of specifically shaped plastic, really) comes, you guessed it - with the new cartridge.
Two possible solutions: a) bite the bullet and just buy the cartridge (~$25) or buy a Moen cartridge puller, usually available from the hardware store as well for about the same price. Ask, they might even lend you one.
The point of whichever tool you end up with is to rotate the cartridge itself inside the faucet body to break the water seal so that you can pull it out with a set of pliers. There will be a retaining clip to pull out as well.

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The proper fix for this is to hone out the scratches

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I would take cartridge wall and streatch teflon tape as tight and smooth as possible to block water coming up between housing and
cartrideg this is not recomended by mfg just a spa (my initials) certified suggestion

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