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Best Set Up for a good stereo + Surround Sound System

Planning on taking the plunge into HDTV/surround sound system. Have a pretty good Denon amp (no pre-amp jacks tho), and massive Definitive Tech speakers. Is there any way to integrate those DF speakers as back speakers in a surround sound (assuming I buy the front and center speakers)? I.E., Am not too excited about giving up space for another pair of speakers , and inferior ones at that. I suppose I could abandon my Denon and pay the big bucks for CD/video reciever amplifier, but again that seems wasteful and probably lead to inferior audio compared to my Denon. Possibility #3 is to just use the video amp reciever for the front 2 speakers and run the video back speakers through the Denon; essentially 2 amps. Possible? Since my base dilemma comes from trying to get a Samsung 50" plasma soon into my life (replacing the old CRT!) I'd appreciate your incite.

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  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    Reference product:



    http://ec1.images-amazon.com/media/i3d/0...



    I was told that by using a conventional speaker switch box, I could use two different amps (one signal from my stereo system; 2nd from the video system). Essentially you hook it up backwards. That is the speaker is hooked up to the amplifier terminal, and each of the different amps is assigned to speaker 1 and speaker 2. Keeping the "Protection" permanently ON.



    Operation for selecting the preferred amp would be by switching to the preferred amp on the box faceplate.



    Soooooo. Will that work. Understand that both amps are rated in the 80 W + category RMS/channel.

  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    Nothing to add. Last advice was way too basic for this problem.

  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    Answer is not on target.

    I have presently a stereo sytem with two speakers. Their placement would work well as the back speakers in a 5 channel system.

    The question is, how do you integrate those speakers into a video-with-Dolby system. The video system has its own amplifier.

    Check out
    http://ec1.images-amazon.com/media/i3d/0...

    Can you use this product per my question.

    Please, no more advice on where a speaker is placed, going to ebay for a cheap system or what surround sound is.

  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    This answer was non-technical and offered no reasonable explanation. I know from the manufacturer's literature that impedance matching of amp to speaker would not be an issue. So what is the reason it won't work?

    Please provide a refund.

  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    I am talking about a switch system to use two amps going to one set of speakers. Please read previous posts. The Denon AVR amp will not have a problem with 4 ohm speakers; their FAQ site says so.

    Just send the refund. No one is addressing the question, but you seem to be addressing well the question you wished I asked.

  • lgunderson Dec 29, 2008

    It's not a plug issue.

    Denon amp website FAQ clearly says their 8-ohm AVR amplifier has design to manage a "big speaker", i.e. a 4-ohm load. It is not helpful to say "it won't work" without addressing the switch system proposed in my question. I know Amazon sells home theatre systems. Yeah, thanks for that too.

  • lgunderson Dec 30, 2008

    I am using the Denon stereo amp for stereo and intend to continue to do that. I appreciate the help, but again you've missed the point that I intend to get a Denon AVR 789 exclusively for the video elements. The question involves using a swich box to select which amp goes into the Def Tech speakers; i.e. as a Stereo speaker, or as the rear surround speakers. I included a link in previous postings to the switchbox product description. There you could see that it is possible to wire the Def Tech speaker into the terminal labeled "amplifier" and use the terminals labeled "Speaker 1 or Speaker 2 etc." to wire in the Stereo Denon amplifier and the other AVR amplifier. That way I could use the switchbox to select which amplifier to drive the Def Tech speakers. I just can't make it any plainer that my question was "Why won't this work?".

    How do you get a refund here?

  • lgunderson Dec 30, 2008

    Here is the solution to the switch-box: it can be done



    http://www.nilesaudio.com/images/PDF/ABS...



    As for balance, the Denon AVR 789 has that covered. You use a mike (provided) run it out to the seat position and voila, it sets adjusts the volume to each surround speaker (or at least that'e what they claim.



    Another potentially correct solution is to move all stereo amp source connections (CD, FM etc) to the AVR, disconnect the pre-amp from power amp on the stereo unit, run the rear channel leads to the power amp. The AVR amp can then be switched between TV and stereo.

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No it isn't going to sound right, I tried it with a pair of polks and an adcom 200 watt per channel, forget about getting it to sound right, with surround sound the speakers have to be matched otherwise your rear speakers are going to overpower the rest. Surround sound amp iss necessary to disperse the sound to the proper channel. you will just be wasting time ans thus money. Get a good set of Bose I have mine for over ten years and they still sound better than 90% of the speakers out there. And your bass module will so not sound right. Save the grief and wait till you can get the surround sound, that works best

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Its is a choice between old anolog raw power and the capabilities of hdtv's use of decoded 5.1 surround sound. you will loose some slight undertones and enhancements of 5.1 surrounds if your using your denon. its possible if you use a digital pa mixer unit you can switch all your compnents trough it. it is 2 different systems, your denon would be good to power either your bass mid's and highs and it is awsome but you wont get the 5.1 separation unless you use a separate surround sound processor, that you can get and still use your denon. if not then dude you should go and get yourself a cool 5.1 surround sound reciever its okay keep the denon for your partys.. you can allway boost your 5.1 use your denon to pump one or two of the 5.1 outs thats how i use it ..
its still can be used to boost your surround sound outs.

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The first thing you would need to check are whether the amp can provide full range to the outputs. You can try connecting your existing speakers as right and back left and the new speakers(Which you want to buy) as left and forward right. The idea is obviously to use the DEnon amp that you have as the sub-woofer.Connect your existing speakers as series if they are connected to the same output. A daisy chain method of connection is the type used in most amps especially when you are tying to integrate an existing amplifier/speaker system with another A/V reciver or similar devices. In this case the Front speakers left and right act as speakers as well as sub-woofers.

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In short I'm sorry but no you can not use this system as a video-with-dolby system.

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Set aside space in your home for your surround sound home theater. This should include space for a large (generally, at least 27-inch) television set, two large stand-up speakers, two smaller surround speakers, and any other components you may want to include.2Decide on the video components of your home theater system. For basic television viewing, you'll want a roof antenna or cable. If you watch a lot of videos, include a hi-fi stereo VCR. For optimal picture and sound quality, choose a laserdisc or a digital video disc (DVD) player.3.Select a surround-sound receiver. Forbasic surround sound, purchase a receiver equipped with a four-channel Dolby Pro Logic decoder. For more advanced and realistic surround sound effects, purchase a receiver equipped with a five-channel Dolby Digital decoder. Step4Purchase surround sound speakers. You'll need at least five speakers to fully experience surround sound: two large front speakers, a smaller central channel speaker and two small rear or side surround speakers. Step5Position your television set where it can be easily viewed. Consider placement carefully: you'll place other components according to the TV's placement. Step6Connect and place your video peripherals: VCR, laserdisc player, DVD player, and so on. Step7Position the surround sound receiver near the television so you can easily adjust audio quality. Step8See the Related eHow "How to Set Up Surround Sound Speakers" to learn how to place the speakers for optimal sound quality.

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U can't take advantage of Dolby Digital without the proper equipment, the most basic being a 5.1 (4 surround speakers and a sub-woffer) system that has a dolby decoder, so using your old stereo system is really not going to give you what u want, the speakers should be placed on the wall front of u and rear of you, the sub can be hidden and should be away from the TV. U don't have to spend a fortune to get a good system, I used a PC system and adapted the plugs to full size RCA plugs with cheap adapters off ebay, cost was $200, sounds great, lots of power and has dolby decoder. The surround speakers don't have to be very big and most are not, the sub gives the real kick to the system.

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    I guess we don't really know what u want? I have given u good sound help from my own personnel experience, good luck.

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    yadayada Dec 29, 2008

    Like I said I would not advise u use the large speakers, they will not work with surround sound, and in most cases have a different impedance than standard stereo units, so the answer is no u can't integrate your speakers into a 5.1 system, the acoustics would not be right if if they where the right impedence..

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    yadayada Dec 29, 2008

    I did not suggest Ebay as a source for a cheap system as u say, only the RCA adapters to convert mini RCA plugs to standard RCA plugs, please read the post agasin, and once again your system will not work, read the post again on this as well.

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    yadayada Dec 29, 2008

    Go to this page to look at systems that are easily adapted for TV use.



    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_1...+

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    yadayada Dec 29, 2008

    Do u read the entire post, u still don't get the answer about the RCA Jack adapter plugs? it's not for your system, it is to allow the use of a PC based 5.1 dolby system, they are far cheaper, not that they cheaper made just cheaper to buy, anyway I can't understand why you don't get it about the Dolby Digital surround, the sub woofer (just one speaker) is the power house, if u use your large speakers like u have u will defeat the way the system works, the center channel and 4 surround speakers handle certain frequencies, and by the way why do u think they are 4 or 8 OHM? they are not in most cases. I guess we just can't make it clear enough for u to understand. by the way u have to request a refund from fixya, it is not given just by posting it, we are not employed by fixya, we are just working from our homes and office's to try and help folks like u, the money really is no the motivation, u have become kind of a crusade for me..

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