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Bose 901 iwht tx-sr 706

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how do I connect bose 901 speakers with tx-sr 706 receiver. Can I also connect denon turntable dp47f to the receiver?

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  • rmachav Dec 29, 2008

    Hi,
    Thanks very much for the info.

    Do I need another/seperate AMP to make the equalizier connection or can I make the loop between the tx-sr706 receiver tapein/tapeout and the equalizer tapein/tapeout?

    Thanks and Best Regards




  • rmachav Dec 30, 2008

    Hi,
    Thanks very very very much. I will try this and will let you know. Good to know about the Denon DP47F.

    Thanks and Best Regards



  • rmachav Dec 30, 2008

    Hi,
    sorry to bother you again.
    I connected the speakers to receiver's Front +/-.
    Iconnected theequalizer's Amplifier connections to receiver's tapein/outconnections.How can I control the equalizer unless I put the receiverin TAPE mode,if that is the case I cannot watch anything. Is thisconnection right? Am I missing anything. How should I make thetape-loop engaged always?
    Following are the connetions I made:
    equalizerhas AMPLIFIER CONNECTIONS AND TAPERECORDER CONNECTIONS.Currently I usedthe AMPIFIER connections(FROM AMP"TAPE OUT" and TO AMP"TAPE IN") fromthe Equalizer to connectto the RECEIVER (TAPE IN/TAPE OUT)>

    Equalizer (OUTPUT) to RECEIVER (TAPE IN)
    Equalizer (INPUT) to RECEIVER (TAPE OUT)

    THanks and Best Regards

  • speedread Jan 19, 2009

    So, on a similar model (TX-SR606) what do you have to set on the receiver to
    make the tape loop active with the equalizer? Also, is it then filtering just the front pair of speaker or _all_ the audio input (to all channels)???


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You have been given some bad information, as you probably know.

There's good news and bad news. The bad news you need a separate amp because a multichannel receiver with Bose 901's attached as you have them will only sound right in STEREO on stereo analog material. The other speakers around the room are not designed to receive its Active Equalization and if you engage your Tape Monitor you will NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR DIGITAL sources at all. Tape Monitor is for analog stereo material only and on modern AV receivers it disables any digital inputs so you really can't use the Tape Monitor circuit or attached devices for modern digital sources. However, you can still employ the various DSP options to spread 2-channel analog source material around the room. I do.

The good news. I have a setup similar to what you want to do and it works great! With one caveat - My receiver actually has 5.1 analog Outputs so I can drive up to 6 external amplifiers if I want to (I drive 4). IF yours does NOT (*) we have to be creative in extracting the front two channels from your multi-channel receiver. The obvious alternative place would be at one of the few OUTputs on the back, assuming you have one free to use.

* I can't find your exact manual so I have to extrapolate features.

I see on the SR70>5< there are TAPE and VCR audio OUTS. Use one of these to feed the Bose EQ if you don't have Pre Outs specifically for the front channels.

If you DO have Pre Outs for all channels you're golden.

A separate stereo amp for the 901's was my solution. I run a Carver AV-406 (5-channel amp) for my 901's in Front, 2 Subwoofers and the Rear Surround channel, with the Active EQ between the receiver Front L&R Outputs and the 901's amp channels. My receiver controls everything and just drives the Center and Surround speakers.

You could get by with just a stereo amp for the 901's. A Carver M-200 is a good efficient amplifier that would have you cooking just fine (2x100W). Run it with the Active EQ between the receiver Front L&R Pre-Outputs ** and the 901's amp channels.

** Front Pre Out; (or VCR or Tape Out) >>> Bose EQ Amplifer IN, then
Bose EQ Amplier OUT >>> new amplifier IN.


Attach the 901's to the new amp, set its volume to Max and run through your receivers speaker level setup.

*** If you use a Tape or VCR Out you will NOT be able to SELECT the source you use for the 901 Pre-Outs for listening, or else the 901's will not get any sound sent their way. DO NOT USE the monitor switch for that source.

You may have to get ugly with your other input components to find them all homes on the receiver. The labeling won't necessarily match up with the device types. Mine is ugly like that and I have a lot of connectors, but I have even more input devices.

If you have CD, TV Cable box and DVD (typical) you need to assess what you have that is digital and use what you can wherever you can, then the leftover analog device(s) can go into any available analog input that is left over.

Whichever of these connections you DO NOT use for the 901's will still be available for using some kind of conventional analog recording device or sound processor such as an EQ or dbx Expander. However, as with any digital receiver, selection of that device for monitoring will kill the sound from any DIGITAL source you have playing (or maybe it just won't allow you to monitor).

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You will need to connect the speakers to the front channels as you would with any normal set(Speaker + to amp +, speaker - to amp -, etc) then you connect the special Bose equalizer through a tape monitor loop and always have the monitor loop engaged.

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  • weirdal Dec 29, 2008

    No extra amp is needed. Just connect the Bose EQ as you would a tape deck. The EQ should have the tape in/outs clearly labeled.

    As for the phono question, yes the Onkyo does have a phono input (according to Onkyo's website). The Denon DP47F is a very nice turntable - I have one as well :)

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