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Missing user names and groups from "Security settings" window

Hi,

1) I cannot change the security settings under "file properties", because
all the LOCAL user accounts and user groups are missing from the list,
and VALID user names are not recognized when I type them in manually.

2) When I select and right-click on a file or a folder on an NTFS drive...

Right-click --> properties ---> security ----> ADD ---> Advanced ----> Find Now...

The list contains ONLY "built-in" security principles !!!!
NO local groups
NO local users, not even the Administrator.

If I restrict the object types to exclude the "built-in" stuff,
I get an "unspecified" ERROR.

It seems that the SAM is partially corrupt, yet I can logon to Windows,
no problem, my user name displays correctly on my start menu, and
I can even access all my groups and user accounts from the "computer management" applets.

I can also access and manipulate all user accounts from within the user manager (through the control panel), and create new accounts, but

I just cannot see any of them from the ADD button in the security
settings, and Windows refuses to recognize them as valid. The same problem occurs from within the group manager's ADD button:

START --> ADMIN TOOLS --> COMPUTER MANAGEMENT -->
COMPUTER MANAGEMENT (LOCAL) --> Local Users and Groups -->
Groups ---> Administrators --> double-click....

The window shows the complete list of current member accounts,
but when I click:

ADD ---> advanced ----> Find Now

it does not find any of the existing local users, except the built-in principles.

If I try to enter a valid (and working) user name manually, windows refuses to accept it (ie cannot find it) even though the name is already on the list in the parent window.

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Help. This is maddening !!!

I seems that the SAM and the user profiles are good enough to logon,
but too corrupt (or disconnected) to add the users or groups to file
permission lists. Also, this computer can no longer be accessed from
the local network, because the remote logon is denied, but local logon is just fine.

Martin

Re-installing windows is not an option.










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  • Martin J Stadler
    Martin J Stadler Dec 27, 2008

    Clearly that is not a solution, but rather pointless.

    I am a computer engineer, so I would not be asking
    other experts if a trivial solution was what I wanted.

    There is no way to re-install windows without re-installing
    all applications and re-configuring the entire system, which
    on my 4 Terra-byte machine is a process requiring about
    6 months at a loss of productivity = approx $120,000

    Of course I have backups of the system including duplicate
    partitions etc., but given the overall size of my system,
    even the backups are also several months old.

    I would rather try to fix the system, than revert it.

    I believe that there is corruption in the SAM registry,
    such that the "user accounts and groups" database became
    disconnected from the local policies and the security manager,
    but the SAM is still mostly intact, because I could not login
    otherwise.

    Also, even newly generated user accounts still fail to show
    up in the security settings' user list, so this is a simple
    path or registry linkage problem. I just need to find it.

    Martin.


  • Martin J Stadler
    Martin J Stadler Mar 11, 2009

    The problem has returned, still need to solve this

  • Martin J Stadler
    Martin J Stadler Mar 11, 2009

    1) Re-installed windows to fix the problem, but now the problem came back

    Still need a solution !!!!


  • Martin J Stadler
    Martin J Stadler Mar 20, 2009

    This is NOT an ownership issue particular to a single object.

    The user database is partially corrupted or disconnected from the
    user list available to the file SECURITY applet.

    1) All the users can log-in just fine
    2) All the users appear in local policies when joining groups, but
    3) None of the users are visible when adding user to groups or
    access control lists.


  • Bill May 11, 2010

    Hi Martin:
    You helped me with a cooling fan issue awhile back on a dell xps
    Still have a problem if you can help let me know??
    Thanks
    Bill


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Hi dear!!

Check the ownership and try copy the ownership rights....

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You have to backup all SYSTEM files and reinstall the OS. That's the ultimate solution to your problem.

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To give you permission you have to do this:
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How to take ownership of a folder and Grant permissions in Win 7?


Summary:
Windows 7 has implemented addition security mechanism to prevent accidental or intentional file or folder modification by not allowing users other then owner of file or folder to access it. Hence incase if you need to access, modify or delete such files or folder you need to take ownership first then assign rights or permission to respective users. Here is Guide on How to take Ownership and Grant Permission in Window 7.
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How to Take Ownership in Windows 7?
  1. Locate the file or folder on which you want to take ownership in windows explorer.
  2. Right click on file or folder and select “Properties” from Context Menu.
  3. Click on Security tab.
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  4. Click on “Advance” (For special permission or advance settings click advanced).
  5. Now click on Owner tab in Advance Security Settings for User windows.
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  6. Click on Edit Button and select user from given Change Owner to list if user or group is not in given list then click on other users or groups. Enter name of user/group and click ok.
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  7. Now select User/group and click apply and ok. (Check “Replace owner on subcontainers and objects” if you have files and folder within selected folder).
  8. Click ok when Windows Security Prompt is displayed.
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Once you have taken the ownership of file or folder next part comes is Granting Permissions to that file/folder or object.
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  1. Locate the file or folder on which you want to take ownership in windows explorer.
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  3. Click on Edit button in Properties windows Click ok to confirm UAC elevation request.
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The following is a step by step to change a folder attribute.
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Hi,
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For Windows XP Professional Edition, disable Simple file sharing:

Click Start, and then click My Computer. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options, and then click the View tab. In the Advanced Settings section, clear the Use simple file sharing (Recommended) check box. Click OK. Then, follow these steps:

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Perform the steps mentioned in the below article.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

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CAUSE

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