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Jim Slattery Posted on Apr 04, 2007
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Amp output I have 3 type-R 12" subs. They are the 4 + 4 versions, so the coils are in series and then each sub paralleled for a 2.67 ohm load. They are hooked up to a MRD-M1000 amp. IS there anything wrong with this setup? I was unpleasantly suprised with the output of this system. Also...during a road trip the system gets noticably louder after about 2 hrs. -Thanks.

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If you are hooking up the speakers in a bridged configuration to the amp then you are forcing your amp to drive a 1 ohm load on each channel. If your amp is not capable of driving a 1 ohm load then you will fry your amp. It may take a month or two, but it will fry it. How does it feel temperature wise? If you cannot place your hand firmly on any part of the amp and hold it there all day long, then it is running too hot. Good luck. Hope this helps.

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SERIES SUBWOOFER WIRING
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Example: I have two “Type X 12” subs” that have dual 2ohm voice coils and have to match my “Amplifier X” ohm rating of 2ohms mono. In this case, I would wire each subwoofer in series (giving me a 4ohm load), and then wire the two subs in parallel to get my 2ohm mono load. When wiring multiple subs just, treat each sub as a voice coil and wire accordingly.

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