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I can't remember if you plug in the generator to the electric panel first (with power turned to the generator and off of the main line feed) and then start the generator, or start the generator and then plug into the electric panel (wired for the generator with panel switched over to generator.) Thanks, John

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Never do either!! You have to have some things in place before you apply electricity to a building(load) that is supplied by utility power first. First, you must have in line a way to open the normal utility circuit that supplies your building(load) first before you hook a generator up to your house/building first. If you don't you could very well injury or kill a lineman. That's not something you want to explain to an judge.If your not and electrician your have no right to be screwing around with something that is as deadly a electricity. But for you who will not listen this might be helpful and make it a little safer. Assuming you do not have a automatic transfer switch you must have a breaker in line from your utility meter to your building. This breaker will open the utility circuit to your building so that when you running your generator you are not back feeling the system. Again when I say a breaker in line from the utility supply to your building I mean a breaker that you can open that will prevent the flow of electricity from you the utility source to your building(load) not to main breaker in your breaker box. Once that is done ,how ever you hook you generator up to your building, you should land all wires from the generator to the building(load) first. Then open the main breaker on the generator which means turn it off. Then start the generator, let it run for a few minutes to warm up. Then you can close the main breaker on the generator, meaning turn it on. If you plug it in while to generators running and supplying electricity, and the electricity can flow to load after it is plugged in you risk being shocked and damaging equipment . If you start the generator with the generator all hooked up and ready to run your building(load) you risk damaging the generator and equipment in your building. Please have an electrican design and explain a safe system first.

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OK, by talking about a plug, I am assuming you have made a double male plug to hook the generator to the electric panel. This is not really advised, because it is so easy for it to be plugged into an outlet by someone not knowing what it is far, and getting electricuted. Now, away from preaching, and to helping.
It is best to hook it to the generator and then crank it, so you are not dealing with a load when you plug the systems together. When your power is restored, it would be good to install a plug to your electrical box and have it go to a disconnect like is on your outside A/C unit. It moves you away from the hot wires.
Hope your power is on soon!

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