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No heat I have problem with a carrier heat pump / AC the fan inside work and the air is circulating but no heat is coming out, only heat with the emergency heat come on, also the fan outside works, I change the thermostat by noting change.

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  • gabriel_garc Dec 20, 2008

    Thank you for your help, check the capacitor is not swollen but one of the terminals on top the one that goes from the relay to the capacitor is melted and the cable to, (yellow) can that be the problem.



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Your compressor sounds like isn't working? And the problem is if we are lucky you just lost the capacitor. turn off the breaker to the ac/heat pump unit. Open the electrical panel on condenser locate the capacitor if it is swelled up like puffed up can then for sure it is bad. It has two sides to the capacitor one for the fan and one for the compressor. If you have a meter check it in ohms. If you don't have a meter take the capacitor to a heating and air conditioning parts house and get a new one just like the one you have very important to get right size. let me know how it turns out. ken

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  • Ken Bledsoe Dec 20, 2008

    You bet thanks for getting back to me .

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To understand why your AC or heat pump is freezing up, it helps to know how your system works.

There are 7 major parts to an AC system, 9 with a heat pump.

1 - Condenser/heat pump (The outdoor unit)
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2 - through changes in pressure, the refrigerant makes the evaporator coil get very cold, and the condenser coil gets very hot.

3 - The blower motor/fan circulates air across the evaporator coils, as the room temperature air (Also known as "indoor ambient") goes through the cold coil, it exits, cooled approximately 15 to 20 degrees cooler than when it entered. (In a ducted system, the blower is also the fan that circulates the air throughout the home.)

4 - The condenser fan circulates air across the condenser coils. As the outdoor air goes through the condenser coil, it removes heat from the coils that are very hot. This in turn removes heat from the refrigerant so it can run its cycle again, and through pressure changes, cool the evap coil.

5 - With a heat pump, the reversing valve reverses the flow of refrigerant in the condenser and evaporator coils.
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Now, whichever coil is getting cold will freeze up if there is inadequate air flow across the coil, as the refrigerant in it is far below freezing, and there is not enough airflow to keep the humidity in the air from freezing on the coil.

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1 - Dirty/clogged coils
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Low refrigerant will also cause a coil to freeze up, reduce efficiency and cause the system to run for long periods of time. Not to mention, shortening the life of the unit.

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Note, a properly working AC should never freeze up.

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Some are controlled by timers, some by temp.

When a HP is going into defrost mode, the condenser fan shuts down, the reversing valve reverses the flow of refrigerant and the once cold condenser coil now gets very hot, defrosting the coil. (Many people have said this process sounds like the unit is coming apart, or about to explode and are frightened by the "smoke" which is really just steam from melting ice that comes off the unit.)

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Poor airflow
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Cover most of the vents, and turn the system onto cooling mode until the outdoor coil is thawed. then uncover vents and return to heat, or emergency heat. (this usually takes 15 min or less)

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AC only, with frozen evap coils? (this can sometimes be seen frozen all the way outside to the compressor on the copper lines.)

Turn the system off, and the fan switch from "auto" to on".
This will usually defrost the coils within 1 to 2 hours.
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