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Back draft through chimney

Live in center of ILL. strong winds shut cieling hung electronic ignition furnace down need chimney ideas

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  • henk2845 Feb 02, 2009

    I have a similar problem with downdraft through the vent pipe of my water heater. I recently installed a continous flow gas water heater (replaced the standard 40 gal gas water heater). I now have a problem with down draft through the vent pipe. I never noticed it on the 40 gal heater, but the draft is so strong that it prevented the gas from firing. The gas nozzles on the new heater are directly underneath the vent pipe. I put in a damper and it helped somewhat, but I am afraid it is not venting enough, causing some carbon monoxide to get back into the utility room, where the heater is located. Also, the utility room is getting real cold in the winter and I can feel cold air coming down the vent pipe into the heater and into the room, despite the damper I installed. Someone mentioned that I should extend the vent pipe on the roof. How high should it be extended, if any?



    Thanks so much for your ideas.

    hnek2845

  • dwkcool May 11, 2010

    is the top of chimney high enough in the air

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Added highth to the pipe chimney and a better cap on top to slow the wind

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