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3 way dimmer switch ace 6443v-k only dims in one direction.

When the standard 3 way switch is in the down position the dimmer switch only turns on or off the lights. With the standard switch in the up position the dimmer switch works correctly. I've tried 2 different dimmers thinking that the first one might be defective but that doesn't seem to be the case.
With 2 standard 3 way switches being used they work correctly, making me think the wiring is ok.
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At the switch you have a common ( either a hot or a wire going to lt). And two Travelers( Wires going from one switch to the other) Make sure your not mixing one of the travelers up with the Common easy mistake happens all the time. Travelers are always in the the same at the other end of the 3w switch , you may need to take it apart and look. If you need further help send me more details I hope this helped

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