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Upgrading Processor & Graphics card

I have KOB 845GL NDMx with Intel Celeron1.7.Now, I am plaaning to upgrade it with IntelP4 and a PCI graphics card.Please list me the highest capacity supported by my motherboard for these two components.

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The Intel® 845G chipset is optimized for the Intel® Pentium® 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading (HT) Technology†. It is designed with the high performance 533/400 MHz system bus and integrated high-speed USB 2.0.

Max Cpu
Pentium 4 2.8ghz with a 400mhz FSB and
Pentium 4 2.63ghz with a 533mhz fsb

pay close attention when getting your cpu if it has a 533 front side bus and is faster than 2.63 then the actual cpu speed will end up slower (you will see something like 2.1ghz) if it comes on due to multiplier limitations

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1.5.1 Graphics Subsystem
The board contains two separate, mutually exclusive graphics options. Either the integrated
graphics processor (contained within the ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Northbridge) is used, or a PCI
Express x16 add-in card can be used. When a PCI Express x16 add-in card is installed, the ATI
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http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15113/eng/D101GGC_TechProdSpec.pdf

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What cpu will my mb support


http://www.fixya.com/support/t17051839-gateway_e210882_motherboard_specs

'Always learning'

What a commendable trait to have Mr.Valle. I respect that.

[When you are a member, just click on anyone's user name to view their account. I have been here over 3 years, and am an ex-expert moderator, is how I know ]

This solution is going to be rather long, I hope you can put up with me.

1) Was not aware that Gateway has an e210882 mobo.
(MOtherBOard)
Thought that was an Intel motherboard made especially for Dell.

Things we learn,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gateway-eMachines-T5086-LGA775-Intel-Desktop-Motherboard-I-O-E210882-PERFECT-/300874674719?pt=Motherboards&hash=item460d87321f

Also lists it for the eMachines T5086 desktop computer, too.
My intel states the eMachines T5086 uses an Intel D945GCL motherboard.
Hmmm,....................

In the link above scroll the page down to the Specifications.

Two things to note here;

A) Processor socket
B) Motherboard chipset

The processor (CPU) socket is an Intel LGA 775 socket.
Also known as the Socket T,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_T

The motherboard chipset is just listed as - Chipset.
The motherboard chipset is an Intel 915G,

Here we see the Intel 915G chipset ONLY supports Single-Core
Intel processors.
Intel Pentium 4, and Intel Celeron D.

The Intel Celeron D is NOT a dual core processor, as the D suffix may seem to imply,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron_D#Celeron_D

"The Intel Celeron D processor works with the Intel 845 and 865 chipset families.
The D suffix actually has no official designation, and does not indicate that these models are dual-core.

It is used simply to distinguish this line of Celeron from the previous, lower performing Northwood and Willamette series, and also from the mobile series, the Celeron M (which also uses 3xx model numbers)

Unlike the Pentium D, the Celeron D is NOT a dual core processor."

Supports Intel Pentium 4, and Intel Celeron D processors; that have either a 533MegaHertz Front Side Bus; or an 800MHz FSB.

And use the LGA 775 processor socket,

A) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#Prescott_.2890.C2.A0nm.29_2

B) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#Celeron_D_.28single-core.29

[Note* MT/s is MegaTransfers per Second.
Thought to be a more accurate method of measuring, than using the MegaHertz method. MHz.

[ Incidentally;
Mega = approximately 1 Million.
Giga = approximately 1 Billion.
Hertz stands for Cycles per Second.
Named after a man with the last name of Hertz.

A Processor (CPU), that is stated to operate at 2.4GHz, is the same thing as stating it will operate at 2400MHz.

2400 Million Cycles per Second.
Has a frequency rate ('Speed') of 2400 Million Cycles per Second ]

That is for CPU support.

As for graphics card support, let's go back to the Ebay link, and click on a photo.........

Immediately above the specifications are photos. One large main photo, and 5 smaller views.
I invite you to click on the Top small view, and the one to the Right.
Picture 2 of 5.

Here you see the two White - PCI expansion slots.
Motherboard mounted in the computer case, the long Black expansion slot above them; is a PCI Express x16 slot.

Below them is a Black - PCI Express x1 slot.

The expansion slot you want to use for a graphics card, is the PCI Express x16 slot.

When the PCI Express technology first came out, it wasn't even named PCI Express yet.
Upgrade versions through the years are;

PCI Express 1.0a
PCI Express 1.1
PCI Express 2.0
PCI Express 2.1
,and presently it is PCI Express 3.0

How to know which PCI Express technology, is used for your motherboard?
Simple. Look at the motherboard chipset.
Looking back at the Intel 915G chipset again,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4.2FPentium_D.2FPentium_EE_chipsets

Here we see it was brought out in June of 2004.
The PCI Express 1.1 technology did not come out, until 2005,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_1.1

This means to me, your motherboard utilizes the PCI Express 1.0a technology.
Since it was on the cusp of development, I'll bet it is actually based on the PCI Express 1.1 technology, though.

PCI Express 2.0 and PCI-Express 2.1; are Backward Compatible, with PCI Express 1.1

Stated another way;
A motherboard utilizing the PCI Express 1.1 technology, will support a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, or PCI Express 2.1 technology.

"PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards.

PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1.

Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v2.0 will work with the other being v1.1 or v1.0a."

[ v = Version ]

You will not get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card, or PCI Express 2.1 graphics card.

Will you notice? Doubt it unless you plan on running the newer intensive games. Your processor won't support them anyhow.

[ A graphics card has it's own Processor, and ram memory.
The Graphics Processing Unit {GPU}, and graphics memory.

Doesn't need to borrow from the system resources; the Processor and Ram Memory on the motherboard. (System resources)

However, the graphics information still needs to pass through the Processor. This can be a 'bottleneck', if the processor can't keep up.

Also;
I just stopped using a Gateway 7200X, whose motherboard has an Intel 915G motherboard chipset.
I was using an ATI Radeon HD5450 graphics card on it.

The ATI Radeon HD5450 is based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.

Not really a graphics card to 'write home to Mom about'.
I am using two monitors at once though, and it supports my Adobe Photoshop 7 really well.

( HP 2009m - 20 inch widescreen LCD monitor, and an
RCA L26HD31, HDTV as a second monitor. A 26 inch HDTV ]

So you know that your motherboard will support a PCI Express graphics card, based on either the PCI-E 2.0 technology, or PCI-E 2.1 technology.

(The PCI Express slot has a Lock on one end. It looks as though you GENTLY press down, to install a graphics card.
This = No.
You Gently lift UP on the Lock a little )

The next thing you need to be concerned with, is what the Power Requirement for the graphics card is.

This should be stated in the System Requirement section, of the information about the specifications of the graphics card.

Be aware however, that the Wattage stated is for a COMPLETE computer system, and not the graphics card alone.

For example;
States 400 Watts.
Means power needed for a gamer type motherboard, the CPU, Ram Memory, optical drive/s, and fans.

The graphics card manufacturer builds a computer test system, based on the best hardware components.

This way they will know the power requirement they have stated, will work.

Still don't know of any graphics card's out there, that use more than 150 Watts by themselves. However I may be 'out of touch'.

Your motherboard probably needs 85 Watts.
Each ram memory module uses about 15 watts.

CD/DVD drive about 25 watts.
EACH fan uses 2 to 3 Watts.

If ALL of the LED lights were on at once, they would use less than 1 Watt, and are not worth worrying about when determining wattage usage.

You'll have to look your CPU up by it's spec's, and see what the Maximum Wattage used is.
This is under the heading -> TDP
Thermal Design Point.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
If you need me to clarify any of the statements above, post back in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Mar 12, 2013 | Motherboards

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I need a vedeo card that supports ecs livermore8


The Motherboard is considered the 'Building Block' of the computer.

From it all hardware components are supported.

Processor, Ram Memory, Harddrive, Optical Drive/s, and add-on expansion slot cards.

A graphics card (Video Card) being one.

You need a graphics card that the ECS 945GCT-HM,
or also stated as HP's Livermore8-GL6; will support.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01237572&lc=en&cc=pt&product=3632125#N33

The motherboard chipset is an Intel 945GC,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

According to Intel came out the first quarter of 2005,

http://ark.intel.com/products/34505/Intel-82945GC-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller

The year PCI Express 1.1 technology came out.
PCI Express 2.0 technology didn't come out until 2007,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_1.1

Will the ECS 945GCT-HM support graphics cards based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology?

YES!

PCI Express 2.0 technology IS backward compatible, with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

You just won't get the full capability of the PCI Express graphics card; based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology.

Will you notice? Doubtful.

From what I have seen listed in reviews on the graphics card, I would not suggest a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.
Reviews suggest it doesn't 'play well' with a motherboard using the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

There is another thing to consider; Power Supply

Most decent graphics cards require a minimum Power Supply wattage, of 400 to 450 Watts.

This Power Supply requirement isn't just for the graphics card.
Graphics card manufacturers base it on a test computer system.
One they put together with a powerful Processor, high performance motherboard, 2GB's of Ram Memory (At least), optical drive/s, harddrive, and the graphics card. (Plus allowance for computer case fans, etc)

If you're running a 300 Watt power supply, this = No.

(Yes, even though AMD ATI Radeon graphics cards, are touted to use less power; 400 to 450 Watts is still the limit for a decent graphics card, from them. Unless you want to run a simpy PCI expansion slot graphics card, or budget/starter, PCI Express graphics card)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4501123&CatId=7387

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2555929&CatId=7387

Regards,
joecoolvette

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5344843&Sku=T925-3014

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Pls provide new processor's will match KOB 845GL NDSMx board


It uses a Socket 478 for an Intel Pentium 4 processor up to 400MHz. You are somewhat limited being this a older (in computer yrs) model. This is the fastest and for some reason the cheapest I could find.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Intel-Pentium-4-2-8-2-8G-Socket-478-512K-2-8GHz-400MHz-Free-Shipping/491972022.html

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I wish to Upgrade my Intel i845G-W83627 PC, but am not sure if It will support the upgrade(s) PLEASE SOLVE MY PROBLEM SIR, I WILL BE GRATEFUL TO YOU! Just check my hardware specs :...


aakifshamsi,

Looking at the System Summary page,

http://universaleventz.com/sys.html

1) Scroll down the list, and look under the heading - Memory Summary
The Maximum TOTAL Amount of ram memory that the motherboard will support is 2GB.
2048MB.
(1024MB = 1GB)

This is also supported by the fact that the motherboard uses an Intel 845GL motherboard chipset.
(i845GL. The i stands for Intel)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_chipsets

Looking at the chart in the above link scroll down to 845GL.
Read across to the right, and observe the headings across the top.
Look under the heading - Max.memory
2GB.

The motherboard chipset consists of the Northbridge chip, and the Southbridge chip.

(This applies to a motherboard like yours.
Motherboards that support the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, and i9 processors do Not use this older technology)

Motherboard diagram;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of a computer.
It handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.
High-speed graphics being AGP and PCI Express.

A graphics card installed into a PCI slot is Not high-speed graphics. (PCI graphics card)
Integrated Graphics, (OnBoard) is Not high-speed graphics.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities of the computer.

1) Anything plugged into a PCI slot.
2) Integrated Graphics.
3) IDE or SATA. (Harddrive/s and/or optical drives)
4) USB ports
5) Ethernet port
,and so on.

By knowing what motherboard chipset you have, you have a wealth of information about your motherboard.

As for hooking up a 1TB harddrive internally, yes.
Hook it up as a Slave drive.

Information on adding a second harddrive as a Slave drive,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrKm6MbWxc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E&feature=relmfu

Regards,
joecoolvette

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