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  • dilco Mar 01, 2009

    I removed the burr grinder for cleaning but I am having problems re-installing the grinder to the correct grind position. I can describe how to remove the grinder and clean out the burr grinder. Removal is as follows:
    Turn off the power to the unit
    Remove the (2) screws holding the coffee bean canister to the machine
    Remove the coffee bean canister
    Remove the rubber bushing on to p of the grinder assembly
    Gently lift up on the burr grinder adjustment lever, pulling straight up. (Rocking the lever from side to side may help.) It should lift traight off with a snap.
    You will see a red mark and blue slash on the inside of the grinder unit. There is also a blue slash and a red dot on the adjuster ring around the grinder unit. Observe the position of the red dot in relation to the adjustment lever just removed. You will need to put this back to this position on re-assembly. (This is the information that I need to know also).
    Once you have observed and referenced these positions turn the outer ring until the blue slash marks align with each other. Now you can lift the inner portion of the grinder out of thew machine and clean out the clogged and over packed coffee out of the reservoir. (A vacuum may help you out with this.)
    Re-assemble in the reverse order.
    Hope this works for you.



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This is not a hard procedure, but you have to feel comfortable with DIY projects.
First empty the bean container. Vacuum out any remaining beans. Remove the philips screws from the hopper. Lift the hopper off. Vacuum any loose beans out. Remove the rubber gasket. You may clean this with a mild soap solution. Remove the grind adjustment lever- lift straight up with index fingers under the flange. Turn the outer ring with the holes counterclockwise, lift the center ring with the ears straight up when the outer ring is loose enough. The ring with the ears is the upper burr. Clean with a brush. Don't use water or other solutions. Vacuum the beans chamber and brush clean. Replace the upper burr ring matching the ears with the grooves. Turn the outer ring clockwise until it stops. Pull the inner ring to be sure it is locked. Now turn the outer ring back 13 clicks. Replace the rubber gasket. Replace the grinder adjustment lever- drop the lever flange inside on the outer ring with the lever grip loop over the top at #4. Press the flange with two fingers while supporting the outer ring from below. This seems tricky, but be patient. Replace the hopper and screws. Do any grinder adjustments while grinder is running with beans, it may take a few shots to be back at your preference grind! Good luck!

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Figure 1 Figure 2 Figure 3
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