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Bought new XP8000e

I want to wire this to my house breaker panel, I am reading that you have to have a transfer switch and relocate the ground in the generators front panel. My plan was to wire it into an existing breaker in my panel box and putting a male plug near the garage door. Most people i know that use generators for emergency power just back feed the panel with a double male cord. I know that the main has to be off for safety. Just looking for a simple solution without having to buy a transfer switch and i am also reading that the generac transfer switch model 1276 is not capable of switching neutral and to make sure if you use one to make sure my generator has a floating neutral.

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  • svlan44 Dec 12, 2008

    Carl is absolutely right, and I am right now in the process of getting a transfer switch. I do realize that this was not the thing to do, and i am educating people i know that useing the ole double male plug thing is a no no, My thanks to fixya and Carl

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  • svlan44 Dec 15, 2008

    Thanks Toolman Joe,

    I have been looking on the net and I think GE panel is sounding better all the time, next time i got to lowes will look at their product, You are sure right about the cost of some transfer switches, and i'm not looking to spend a whole lot. Just something so I won't be feeding the main line and still be safe.

    Thanks Stan

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Most people don't buy a transfer switch because they cost almost as much as the generator. Lowe's sells a very inexpensive one that will work for most people. It is made by GE and costs $92. Lowe's Item #: 42210 Model: TM860S. Good for 60 amps and 8 circuits. It takes standard GE half size breakers but includes the 60 amp main breakers (which are also standard but make use of a novel device that ensures you can't send power back up the pole). It's a great little design and if a breaker ever fails, you can get a replacement at Lowe's or Home Depot.

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This is a bad idea in so many ways...
The reason many jurisdictions REQUIRE a transfer switch is to protect the poor linemen who will be working at the high voltage end of the power line that comes to your house. At your end of things you get 220 volts, going the other way you could be powering a transformer that will turn the 220 from your generator into 1050 or more volts. Quite a risk. If you do this and get caught you will very likely face both criminal and civil prosecution. If you're not all that concerned about the linemen, the other risk is that you'll inadvertently motorize your generator (turn it backwards) and blow engine parts all over the yard.

Next is the "male plug" idea. The reason we have female receptacles in the wall is that we don't want the (potentially) 220V live conductors hanging out where someone or something is apt to short out when the generator isn't connected.

I know from hearing it hundreds of times that you're so very much more careful than the average person, it isn't YOU we in the power generation business are worried about, it's the people who aren't you and will be operating the power equipment in an emergency situation.

Please, please consider carefully these safety aspects and at least use something like a manual transfer switch to do this job. A 200 amp manual switch costs less than $500, will add value to your house, and can usually be installed in less than a day.

Hope I've talked you out of this,
Carl

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AS A MASTER ELECTRICIAN,I THINK ANYONE WHO DOES NOT USE A TRANSFER SWITCH IS AN IDIOT! IF YOU CANT QUOTE THE CODEBOOK AND HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH GENSET THEORY HIRE AN EXPERT! SCREW UP YOUR PLUMBING AND LEAVE ELECTRICAL WORK TO THE EXPERTS;A LIFE MAY HANG IN THE BALANCE.

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As a master electrician in NYC, I say let the pro's wire your house for a gen. There are issues with grounding and neutrals that must be done correctly. And yes, transfer switch is a must. One more thing, buy a gen that provides true power so that you can operate your electronics. Not all gens are the same. When it comes to gens, price is directly proportional to power and quality. Hope this helps, Alex M.

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If you back-feed your electric panel rather than installing a transfer switch get a breaker interlock so there is no possible way you will forget to open the main it is also illegal to back feed a panel with out ether a interlock or a transfer switch and yes for all you code watchers the interlock is in the electrical code book and is a legal way to do it. please never use a double male plug for connection there is a special outlet for generator use you can get them in lowes or homedepot. good luck!
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You put a double pole breaker on the end of the generator cord set. Turn off the main in the panel put the breaker on the line set in the panel start the generator plug in the line set to the generator turn on breaker at panel end of line set. Depending on generator you might have to turn off all double pole breakers in the panel. If your generator does not put out 240 V. you will have to jump out the double pole breaker to heat up both sides of the panel. In this case you probably will be lucky that you can run a refrigerator and a freezer.

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