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KitchenAid ksrb25fkss01- fan runs, warm air circulates

I have a KitchenAid ksrb25fkss01. Once or twice a week, it does not circulate cold air, instead the warm air (almost room temp.) air is circulating inside the freezer section. The frozen food thaws. Couple of ours later, it starts working normal again. During this phase motor works fine, and there are no strange noises coming from the compressor. I cleaned all the coils, no avail. I called a tech, he showed up and said the compressor is going out without even really examining the fridge. He also told me that the compressor is going to cost about $800. Is the compressor going out or this problem is due to something else? If the compressor is going out, can I replace it. I found this replacement kit:
http://www.repairclinic.com/SmartSearch/SSPartDetail.aspx?PartID=961572&PPStack=1
Is this feasable?

Thanks,
Ertan

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  • ertan Nov 30, 2008

    Gary,

    Thanks for your helpful reply. Your assessment coincides with my original logic. This unit is approx. 5 years old. I inherited it when I bought the house in 2004. Sears technician was a knowledgeable elderly guy who asked me some questions and then suggested that the compressor was going bad. He did not run any tests as the frig was working fine when he showed up.

    I agree with you that trying to change the defrost timer is worth trying, My next option would be to go get a frig during the holiday sale season, but it will still cost me about $1000. My unit is in perfect shape, I don't want to replace it unless I have to.

    Although, I am a very handy and tech savvy person, I don't know much about repairing refrigerators. I opened the unit's back panel once to check the obvious stuff. Everything seems in order; when the compressor is running, the fan is also blowing, and the compressor is running quietly. One simple question, where do I find the defrost timer, and what does it look like? Once I locate it, I'll test it as you suggested.

    Thanks again.I appreciate it.
    Ertan


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Compressor change is probably more than you wish to tackle.
1) must be certified to work with refrigerant.
2) requires silver soldering and or silver brazing.
3) requires re-charging with refrigerant and this is critical and must be measured to the oz.
If it works fine when it re-starts we need to find out what is stopping the compressor. First guess is a defrost timer. The unit goes into defrost at pre-determined intervals, depending on the defrost timer. When it goes into defrost, compressor goes off, heaters come on, and a defrost cycle is initiated. Following this, the heaters go off, (usually by a t-stat and not time), and the compressor is allowed to run again. Changing the defrost timer, which is probably one of the least expensive components, is worth a try. No guarantee, but it is a better choice than the compressor. If the tech did any tests, did he say why the compressor was questionable? Since this happens once or twice a week, it sounds like the timer or at least it is coinciding with a typical defrost cycle. Here is a possible test, when you find it blowing warm air in the freezer, advance the timer 1/4 turn cw. See if the compressor comes on when you do this. That is probably more info that you were looking for, but this is worth a try.

How old is the unit?

Gary

Posted on Nov 30, 2008

  • Gary C Smith
    Gary C Smith Dec 01, 2008

    Best way to find timer is from manual.

    These fellows are about 3" or 2.5" square. Have several wires to them. Have a dial in the center that allows a screwdriver to advance.

    Normally in front or back at floor level, although some are in different places.

    Looking at the manual and parts diagram from Kitchenaid, there is an adaptive defrost control. Appears to be electronic control and not an analog control, as in the past. Suppose there is electronic test done with test equipment made for techs. Sorry.

    I suspect a good tech could help with this.

    Note: Compressor and entire sealed system should have a 5 year warranty.



    Kind Regards,

    Gary

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