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When installing fire logs, where do you place the long copper probe looking device?

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That goes IN to or close to the actual Fire Bed ... it is your Thermo-probe that reports back to the unit that it is "On"

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Make sure you have the gas supply valve open all the way. If it is, you may need to replace the thermocouple (if equipped) or the thermostat unit.

The thermocouple is is the skinny copper tubing that should be screwed to the thermostat and the other end is warmed by the pilot flame. This part sends the signal to let gas go to burners if they are lit, but in case the flame goes off without shutting the valve or thermostat off, (if wind blows or accidentaly spill something on it) this device inmediatelly send the signal to stop flow of gas, when defective, some times works fine and some times does it erratically. (Same thing does in a gas water heater) It is very common for this device to go out and it is very inexpensive and easy to replace.

All gas units are equipped with some kind of device that does the job of the thermocouple, they may call it something else. But that's the part that may be defective in your unit.

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Yep! Find the gas valve and trace the copper line going in to the pilot area. You will need to remove the logs as well as a dab of silicon where the line goes into the pilot assembly. Once you get to the probe end of the thermocouple, there is a friction clip holding it in the holder. You can attempt to unscrew it or you could give it a quick yank down. Take it with you when you get another one. If you need to, you can get a longer one and tuck the extra inside. Silicon the hole back shut after installation.

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