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Baseboard electric heater installed properly, yet won't work.

I have added a subpanel off the main service panel to add more capacity to my house. I have a 50Amp breaker and 8 guage wire going to the sub-panel, which is a Siemens. I have installed a 20 Amp 2pole breaker in the sub-panel and have run 12/2 heater red-sheathed wire to the wall thermostat, which is a Dimplex 2 pole thermostat. I have wired everything in accordance with the wiring diagrams. The Black and Red wires from the sub-panel are connected to the two red "Line" wires on the thermostat. Then I have run the 12/2 wire from the "Load" lines on the thermostat to the basedboard heater wires. The ground wire is connected properly. I have tested all the wires with my neon tester and each power wire at every location shows that it is carrying 120 volts (240 total for both wires). However the heater will not go on. I have used a continuity tester to ensure the heater is working. I have even changed heaters and thermostats to rule out defective heaters and thermostats. I have even bypassed the thermostat and hooked up the 12/2 wiring directly to the baseboard heater and still no heat. I have moved the 20 Amp breaker on the sub-panel. Nothing seems to work. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

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    I removed baseboard heater to paint wall reinstalled heater and it will not work I have a 6'& a 2' both have done the same thing.

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DID YOU CONNECT TO TH SAME END YOU TOOK OUT WHEN PAINTING WE ARE DOWN TO THE CONNECTION @ THE HEATER MAKE SURE THE OTHER END OF TH ELEMENT IS CLOSED WITH WIRE NUTS AND TIGHT , LIKE I SAID WE ARE DOWN TO THE HEATER CONNECTIONS SO LOOK THERE

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