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Singer Touch and Sew II Model 771 problems

After filling bobbin, now thread is clumping

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I had that problem years ago. The answer is so simple.. While you are threading the thread through the machine have the foot in the up position. No more clumping! I was about to throw my machine out the window. I talked to a very old singer man from Germany. He saved me from that awful problem!!

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Try changing the needle
rethread the machine top & bobbin
make sure the bobbin is inserted correctly into the bobbin case
make sure the bobbin is wound correctly
make sure the bobbin is not bent or damaged

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 14, 2008

SOURCE: The needle thread is blocked

Threading instructions for similar brother model:

http://www.mastersewusa.com/masmag11901_files/b114_471_721_771_XL711S_info_tg.htm

Possibly lever is to keep bobbin in place? If so, should slide left/right over top of bobbin.

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Christopher O'Clair

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2009

SOURCE: I cannot figure out how th re- thread the bobbin.

http://www.tandtrepair.com/700_TanS_Items.html The second link in the 'free items' is Bobbin Winding. I would have typed this all out for you, but since tandtrepair has it all laid out with pictures I figured I'd just link you to it. Hope this gets you back up and sewing.

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Hassy

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  • Posted on Aug 19, 2009

SOURCE: I'm working with a singer touch & sew II model

Loosen and and remove the needle, cut top thread. You will need to remove the bobbin case, carefully cut threads below and around, then ease the mess out and away....tidy it up carefully later.
Now to tension and etc Please TRY the solution BEFORE giving your considered rating.
Specific detail on bobbin case adjustment (with picture) near halfway down reply, the remainder will help you achieve a balance of top and bottom tensions.

Ensure that all is clean and free of lint and jams, this is the most likely cause....now for tension troubleshooting .......

This solution is for tension problems...if you cannot form any sort of stitch, the issue is quite different, so please let me know if you need a different problem solved.....

It is quite long, but just work through each section in order.

The "knotting up" can reveal a lot. If you have loose threads on one side or the other, the tension on the opposite side will be the culprit.

QUICK SUMMARY FIRST:
Ensure sharp new needle,
Thread guides and Bobbin are Clean & Clear of lint
Set Top Tesion to 4 ....then....
Balance Bobbin to suit.

TOP THREAD TENSION:
If the looping threads are on the underside as you sew, it is the top tension. Top tension ought to be between 4 & 6 (this variation to allow for the different weights of fabric in your projects).

IS YOUR NEEDLE SHARP ?
If you are using a needle that has seen quite a deal of work, or you suspect it may be blunt, change it for a new one !

TOP TENSION & GUIDES:
Make sure that when you thread the machine the presser foot is up so the thread goes between the discs and not to one side, top tension between 4 and 6, and that you have threaded through all the guides, including the last one, usually on the needle arm, just above the needle clamp.

It may be there is lint trapped between the discs, this will keep them slightly apart and reduce the actual tension, sometimes dramatically.

If tensions appear correct, and the thread is definitely in the channel between the discs, but still too loose and looping, try raising presser foot and remove your thread.

Now, with a 2" (50mm) wide strip piece of fabric 8 - 10" (20 - 25cm) moistened with methylated or denatured spirit, gently insert the fabric strip and clean between the discs with a see saw / to and fro action.

In the worst cases, gentle use of a needle to pick & remove the jam may be necessary, but be very gentle and make sure the tension is set at Zero and the presser foot is raised, (to disengage tension plates).... do not gouge or score the plates, they need a polished surface to work correctly.

BOBBIN TENSION:
Far less common, but if the loose threads are on the top, it is bobbin tension that is loose, it too may have lint in the spring and be giving a "false" tension.

I would not recommend fiddling with bobbin tension without good reason, it may end up with missing small screws and spring pieces, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean
the hook race area (where bobbin case sits)

...this is just good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....

just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint. If there is a significant amount of lint, use a vacuum and small brush to get the worst.

Then wipe all this area with a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (not soaked) with methylated spirit, especially if there appears to be fine dirty deposits....oil and lint combine to conspire against you.

If it seems likely that you ......really ....do .....actually .....need .....to adjust the bobbin case, first check there is no lint trapped in the metal spring where the thread is tensioned.

TOP LOADER:
Drop-in Bobbin case will look similar to this image with the tension screw in the middle of the metalwork....

4c76dc1.jpg ...the other screw at one end is holding it all together, so beware....it is not a tragedy to undo the whole lot and clean it, but very gingerly and lay the bits out in sequence and orientation, or you risk tearing your hair out !

FRONT LOADER:
....this is a bobbin case from a front loading machine and works in a very similar fashion to the top loader with drop in bobbin, again, if you dismantle it, take care so you can put it all
back properly.
165ca5c.jpg FINISHING UP
GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT:
When you are certain there's no trapped lint in top tension or bobbin, set the top tension to 4 and the bobbin tension to a point where you just begin to feel resistance.

Try using good quality thread of contrasting colours so you can more easily spot the changes.

Set your zigzag to one width less than maximum (eg. 5 of 6 ...or... 4 of 5 etc) and sew a sample for a few inches and check the result.... adjust the bobbin tension screw very little at
a time, perhaps 1/16 of a turn.

You may find you are playing with this balance for some little while and if you are putting the needleplate on and off each time begin to think it cannot be correct to do this.....BUT....it is,
and eventually, you do get a "feel" for the correct tension and then it happens quite quickly.....as a user you won't be doing it very often unless there is lint built up (or are there small hands at work around the house !?!?!)

OTHER ISSUES:
If you live near the ocean as we do, salt air can play havoc with metalwork inside and out, so to help minimise this, keep a few small packets of dessicant (silica gel) in your machine
case....no case ? then make some sort of cover !

Same applies in any damp or humid environment, keep your machine dry and dust free.

Budget for a proper full service every couple of years (more often if heavily used) and if you don't use your machine for a few years, be aware that old oil will dry out and combining with
dust and form a "clag" like glue (another reason for some sort of cover, even a teatowel !)

FINALLY, A WORD ON THREAD:
If it is worth spending the time, energy and money on making something that you would like to give lasting enjoyment......use quality thread, .......it may seem to cost a little more at the
time, but the results, ease of use and added longevity will be worth the extra, and as a bonus, your tension troubles may be fewer and further between, because there is a more consistent diameter with good thread, and less compensating to be done by your tension plates and less thread breaks

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 06, 2010

SOURCE: I have a Singer Touch N Sew Model 636. The

I had a Golden Touch 'N Sew many years ago and as the machine aged and parts became worn, step 4 of this bobbin winding diagram started to become a problem and I had to sometimes try several times before the "tabs" would release. If they did not release, the machine "thought" it was still winding the bobbin and would not sew.

http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diagrams/Threading_Pages/Singer_Sewing_Machine_Threading/singer_2001_touch_tronic_threading_diagram.htm

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 26, 2011

SOURCE: how to thread the bobbin on a singer touch and sew model # 625

how to wind the bobbin of the singer touch and sew model 625



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My singer 720 is not picking up the bobbin thread

Are you holding the needle thread as you turn the hand wheel? You need a bit of tension on the top thread to get the bobbin thread to tie onto it. It's safer and better to do this by hand, in my experience with a Touch 'N Sew Singer. Try threading the machine again with the presser foot fully up and the needle bar is in the highest position to avoid a tension problem. Double-check that the bobbin isn't over-filled or empty. Check that the needle point is undamaged. Try a brand new needle.

If that isn't the problem, check that the bobbin case isn't damaged and that the bobbin case/feed dog area is clean. Similarly, make sure that the bobbin wind mechanism is undamaged. Check the bab (My Touch 'N Sew is an inherited machine. The bobbin wind mechanism broke and was replaced several times after the push-button failed to release when the slide plate was closed. Those were all before I got it. I've gotten in the habit of opening and closing the slide plate a few times to check the position.)

For removing the bobbin case, see page 104 (page 110 of the PDF) of the manual. The current link to the manual is https://res.cloudinary.com/singer-sewing/image/upload/fl_attachment/Singer-Website-Library/outdated_product/SINGER_700_and_720_Sewing_Machine.pdf .

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My Singer Futura II, model 920 won't sew. The top thread is threaded correctly, new needle, tension set correctly and the bobbin won't wind with thread. I have had this machine since the early 1970

IF IT WON'T SEW AND THE BOBBIN WON'T TURN FREELY THEN THE SIZE OF THE BOBBIN IS WRONG. MAKE SURE IT IS THE RIGHT HEIGHT AND WIDTH. THE RIGHT TENSION OF THE BOBBIN HAS TO BE RIGHT OR IT WON'T SEW RIGHT EITHER. IF THE BOBBIN DOESN'T WIND WHEN YOU ATTEMPTING TO REFILL IT THEN YOU HAVE A BOBBIN THAT IS THE WRONG HEIGHT.
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clumping is caused by operator error and tension problems. First make sure you are grasping the threads when you start to sew. Then tighten the upper tension.
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I have a Singer Touch N Sew Model 636. The

I had a Golden Touch 'N Sew many years ago and as the machine aged and parts became worn, step 4 of this bobbin winding diagram started to become a problem and I had to sometimes try several times before the "tabs" would release. If they did not release, the machine "thought" it was still winding the bobbin and would not sew.

http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diagrams/Threading_Pages/Singer_Sewing_Machine_Threading/singer_2001_touch_tronic_threading_diagram.htm

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I cannot figure out how th re- thread the bobbin. There is no place to put bobbin th thread it. odd bobbin without a hole in the middle. Model 771 touch and sew II

http://www.tandtrepair.com/700_TanS_Items.html The second link in the 'free items' is Bobbin Winding. I would have typed this all out for you, but since tandtrepair has it all laid out with pictures I figured I'd just link you to it. Hope this gets you back up and sewing.
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How to thread the bobbin on a singer touch and sew model # 625

how to wind the bobbin of the singer touch and sew model 625



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Bobbin filling on Singer 626

The Singer 626 has a self-winding bobbin. You place the empty bobbin in the bobbin thingie (sorry for being so untechnical). On the left of the bobbin you will see a "lever" with a circular top on it (I think it is red-ish) Again, sorry for being so untechnical. Press the "lever" down. Thread your machine, thread the needle, wrap the excess thread from the needle around the knob that tightens the needle and holds it in place and press your foot down on the foot pedal. The bobbin will automatically wind as you hold the foot pedal down. Do not wind the thread onto the bobbin past the outer white line.
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