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Marvell 885E61xx BIOS V.1.1.0.L69 IDE adapter

Hi WV, sorry to bother you again so soon, I have a couple more probs to straighten out before I can call this computer the PC of my dreams! (Hope you can help me).....

The Marvell IDE adapter on my mobo (ASUS p5q se/r, c2d E8500, 2x2g 800 RAM) takes over a minute to detect my IDE drive during boot up, and after looking around the net for some answers all I could come up with is "Ensure if the drive is on its own cable, that it is set to master", I checked that, and I already had master set... so I moved it to the end of the cable (no difference). Ive currently got 2x500g Western Digital SATA's, and my old 250g WD IDE, and ASUS DVD drive.

I was considering getting an IDE to SATA adapter, but I'm not sure if I do will the mobo then consider the drive an IDE or sata? (I know I wont get much if any speed boost, but if it became SATA at least I could turn off the Marvell?)

Or should I just send it to HDD heaven, and cut my losses? (I've got a few from my old PC, not sure if I should incorporate them into this or copy what I need and file them under my bed)

Oh, and I got Far Cry 2 - looks great but I havent really played it yet. I benched it at all optimal settings and got 24FPS - running my system stock. (Is that ok? I dont really know what FPS I should aim for) It looked awesome to me! (Actually made me wonder why I ever bought PS3, except for COD4) Question: Would increasing my RAM from 4g to 8 make any difference to my machine? (4x2g 800s)

Anyway, your suggestions would be a great help to me, hope to hear from you soon.
ADS

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  • findads Nov 21, 2008

    Thanks for your response WV, the DVD is SATA(new), and at this point I have 500g system HDD in SATA 1, 500g spare in SATA 3 and DVD multi in SATA 5. I wasn't sure if SATA 1 shared a channel with 2, 3 with 4, 5 with 6.... so I seperated them (This PC is my first experience with Sata), but in regard to the IDE, its pretty much new and transfers data fast enough to be usefull still.... but I cant figure out why the delay in booting... I might pull them all out tomorrow and see if I made a mistake somewhere...will let you know...

  • findads Nov 21, 2008

    Thanks WV, I'll try removing SMART first and go from there. When you say write zero's to the drive.... do you mean format it? I dont know the speed; never looked and pulled the stickers off yesterday thinking it would look better! (I'm now thinking that may not have been the brightest idea I've had.) And please don't let me keep you up... I'll hear from you when I hear from you! Thanks again. ADS

  • findads Nov 23, 2008

    Hey WV, hope you had a good trip. I don't seem to be able to turn smart on or off on this mobo, which I find strange considering my ancient ecs mobo had that option (if not many others!). I'd better take another look at my BIOS, but I don't recall any drive spin up or accoustics options....

  • findads Nov 23, 2008

    Cool WD.... I'll give that a try.... thanks! I've got ultimate boot CD and spotmau..... will they do the same job, or do you advise hirens?

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You have your Asus DVD on the same cable as your WD IDE Drive? Is the DVD a DVD ROM or DVD ROM and CDRW, or is it a DVD Multidisc? An old DVD ROM could slow down your WD HD by riding on the same cable. I wouldn't pin these other than CS and put the HD in the middle or slave port and your DVD on the end. Turn SMART monitoring off in your system. This slows down spin up and mounting of your HDs. Puting your HD in the middle as Slave gives the data the shortest distance to travel to the MD where the system BIOS is better off deciding what is master and what is slave by position on the cable. And what is master and what is slave is of little significance anymore. Most System BIOS utilities allow you to instruct the BIOS what drive to boot from anymore.

You *could* use the IDE to SATA adapter and port it on a SATA cable. It would still only transfer at around 60MBs and over 100 on burst. But it could still take time to recognize. Some drives have a spinup delay to prevent shock to the motor believe it or not. WD HD utilities do not allow you to change spin up delays. If yours was built with a delay its probably because of a test result at the factory.

You could designate your OLD 250 as a backup drive and put it in an external enclosure that connects via USB. Thereafter just go with SATA drives. Same thing for the DVD writer if you really want to rip DVDs.

Another viable option, but slows down your bootup speeds is an add in IDE adapter card. These are notoriously slow, but I use them for extra DVD writers in one of my PCs where I have four of these. I have kids and grand children so we share amongst ourselves alot and I do pro bono work for families with Autistic children. When they get a DVD I'll make several backups for them so the children can abuse the Movie DVDs I make and not the original copy.

BTW, USB 3.0 is due out next Spring. At that time you'll want to put one of these new USB 3.0 cards in a PCIe 2.0 slot. USB 3.0 will transfer at 1.5GBs. So, if you're holding off on an external backup drive, these should be forward compatible with USB 3.0 or take a firmware upgrade instead.

And don't forget your 250 may be about to croke and this may be why the BIOS is having trouble reading the phyical characteristics of your drive and energizing it so its ready for use.

As to sending it off to Hospice, yeah sure Avoid all this hassle and get another SATA such as a 1.5T.

Hopet that helps you out but let me know if I've only managed to confuse you; its late. And I'll be on the road all day tomorrow (oh boy).

Worldvet

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    Glenn Rogers Nov 21, 2008

    I wouldn't pull them all out myself. I would turn of SMART monitoring for the IDE drive if its on already, otherwise, you are right there is something wrong there.

    I'll be out of town tomorrow but keep me up to speed on what you do do. I've been through this myself, but its been awhile and I'm pretty sure I either turned off SMART or had WD write zeros to the drive and start over.

    Is the HD 7200 with 8 or 16 MB of cache.

    WV


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Nov 23, 2008

    What were the results once you disabled SMART monitoring, any?

    On your SATA drives, it makes no difference on what number port you plug into. You don't have to worry about shared channels with these things. The motherboards today that support SATA have a smart enough southbridge to handle the traffic. A PCI slot is a bit different, where as PCIe is on a different bus and is handled entirely different.

    I'd just check the WD tools that you can boot from and turn off acoustics management and any spin up delay, if any.

    WV


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Nov 23, 2008

    If for some reason you don't see the option in your Bios, I guess its possible. Go find and download a copy of Hirens BootCD iso from one of the usual GET IT file sites, I hope you understand that clue.

    Bootup from Hirens, and choose Hard Drives and there are several tools in there including one to turn off SMART and disable acoustic management. I know WD rarely used and may not have implemented that still, but the Hiren's CD may have some other clues and tests you can run on this HD that can help you out.


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Nov 23, 2008

    Because I've worked with Hiren's for so long, I've never given Ultimate Boot CD a try, but it should have the same tool set.

    I mostly work with Seagate drives because of the OEM warranty but I do have a WD Raptop and I'm looking at their new 500GB for my laptop as its only two platters thick, so it creates less heat and draws less power.

    You can fill me in on anything it has to offer out of the ordinary stuff WD will let you download. Its the hack programs that you can get to do the job. I don't know of any one program that will adjust accoustic management in a WD as I don't think they ever went for that sillines.

    WV

    Keep me posted.


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Dec 10, 2008

    How did you make out with your HD and its slow to recognize and spin up time?

    Looking over SATA drives lately myself, I think I'd dump the IDE drive and get another SATA drive if you want. The over the 1TB drive prices are falling like rocks.


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