Xbox and video delay?

In article <1bdywsaof4ta0$.175k6ec0yh23n. @40tude.net>,
n @notmindspring.com says...

Hmmm... I did too the first hour after getting it hooked up. I thought
it was just getting used to the new size, but it could have been a
matter of getting used to a different delay too. At any rate, I adjusted
pretty quick, and have no trouble now. (I have Need For Speed: Hot
Pursuit 2 myself).

There is a delay, no question about it, and there will be with any
digital display... its just a matter of magnitude and whether or not you
can adapt.

That said, the delay causing you issues, as I mentioned before is the
one caused by image processing from the analog interlaced input to 720p
(the TVs native only resolution it can actaully display). The more
processing you do to the video the longer it takes.

So the HD pack for the xbox will let you play games in progressive scan
- allowing you to skip de-interlacing, for example.

Also disabling some of the TVs picture enhancement stuff apparently can
make a difference. e.g. try turning off DNIE etc.

Yes. Most likely.

You -might- have better results with the HD cable pack for the xbox. It
sound like you don't have it now. Even if you exchange the TV you'll
still likely want to the HD cables so its not a wasted investment.

In article <1tbp2laz4zs03$.14y6876sncokt$­. @40tude.net>,
n @notmindspring.com says...

I have the HLP with a gamecube and I haven't noticed a problem there.

I'm not sure why people seem to think there would be a difference
between DLP and LCD.

The projection technology has nothing to do with it. The problem has to
do with the amount of time it takes to convert the signal from analog to
digital, scale it, de-interlace it, etc, etc. If the LCD takes the same
signal in and converts it 720p for display its going to have the same
problem.

You could try different manufacturers (lcd & dlp & plasma), but the
underlying problem is the same on all 3. Ironically if you did find a
'faster' TV there's decent odds that its processing isn't as
sophisticated, resulting in a picture that doesn't look quite as good
non-HD inputs.

The suggestion to try the HD pack might make more of difference than
anything else, as it may feed the TV a signal that needs less or even no
further processing.

In article <SfKAd.725102$mD.320558@attbi_­s02>, S @Virtuo.com says...

The analog-digital image processing process does take time on any
digital tv, and is the cause of audio before video issues in some
circumstances, most infamous on some Samsung DLPs, partly because some
older Samsungs had a much larger delay than is 'normal'. And I must
reiterate that a very small delay is normal, indeed inevitable.

At any rate, this processing delay could also be a factor in your xbox
controls. But as I said elsewhere, I run a Gamecube into a nearly
identical TV with no control issues, so the delay is small enough to not
be an issue. At the local Best Buy they even display the set with the
newest EA NHL title and an Xbox.

If you are already running the cables directly to the Xbox, the only
other thing I can think of is ... are you perhaps utilizing enhanced HD
resolutions the xbox supports? The xbox is just a weak PC after all, and
upping the resolution of the games you are playing will push the unit
harder, and ultimately lower its framerate and responsiveness in
general, especially on newer more graphically intense titles, just as
upping the resultion in a PC game will. Perhaps this is related to your
problem??

Is it a particular title? Is it all titles? Can you notice it in the
game menus, or just during game play, what about when the xbox has no
disc in it (the 'cube can be used to move game files between memory
cards etc with no game... I assume the xbox can play music files on the
hard drive, and other equivalent functions with no game disc...)

Try progressive scan on/off, hd connection, regular old composite cable.
(All directly from xbox to TV...)

Best of luck.

Do you have a DVR (Tivo or the likes)?  The delay is more likely coming from
there.  In order for the TV to delay the video, it would have to have some
sort of hard drive or solid state memory built in and that costs money.  Not
sure why they'd do that unless they were selling a built-in DVR feature.

I don't know about the DLP delay; however, I bought a Sony KDF-42WE655
Grand WEGA LCD about a month ago and play my XBOX on it everyday w/ no
problems.  Hopefully someone has a solution for your problem.

I have the same TV as the above post and I use the HD pack.  I don't get any
delay at all.  Are you trying the HD pack?  Does anyone know if that would
make a difference?
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