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How to completely dismantle a Hobart N50 or KitchenAid Model G

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  • tinkerer dan Nov 19, 2008

    i dont know what all that garbage is above but here is the meat of my request for help again.



    i have a KitchenAid Model G which was made by Hobart and is identical to an old N50. this one is about 1938 vintage. it needs cleaning up and new grease. How do i take apart the planetary assembly and get into the gear area? I took the grease ring off and removed the shaft pin but the planetary assembly does not want to come off the shaft and i dont know if it is stuck on there or if something else needs to be loosened or removed. any advice or directtion to repair information?

  • Tom Lokey Jan 30, 2009

    I also have a G model, when I took off the switch plate, somehow the alignment got out of place. Now I can't get the gear lever to line up correctly. The machine also makes a growling noise when it is turned on. Any suggestions?

  • John Carder
    John Carder Oct 05, 2013

    Did you ever figure it out? I have used my grandmother's Model G for fifteen or twenty years, and I would like to give it a once over.

  • John Carder
    John Carder Oct 05, 2013

    How did you remove the grease ring? There is what looks like a molded divot on one side that I'm guessing is a snap to hold it on.

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If you only want to service the unit and not open the case, you can add grease through the gear shifter plate opening once you remove it. if you have a grease gun with a flex nozzle that's a bonus.
If not it is a messy job. Keep lots of paper towels at hand and use a narrow spatula to get the grease inside. Get as much in as you possibly can.

To remove planetary, with pin removed, spray a bit of wd-40 or other penetrating oil into where the pin came out of let it penetrate for a few minutes. Plan-A Take two screwdrivers and gently try to pry the planetary away from the body of the mixer. Plan-B Add a bit more lubricant to the shaft pin area and install a beater, then try prying with one screwdriver while putting downward pressure on the beater, alternate prying on both sides of planetary. Excessive force at the planetary top can/will crack it as it is a molded piece of metal. If you found this solution helpfull, please rate it. Good luck.
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They do get stuck. sometimes the pin shears and it gets run with it sheared and gulls the shaft and planetary housing up .

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  • Due51 Dec 25, 2010

    For the life of me, I could not pry the planetary off, despite using two flat-head screwdrivers. So, I installed the whisk, took a handheld soldering torch and heated the center of the metal molded piece (the planetary), then used a flat prybar wedged under the body of the mixer and over the top lip of the whisk. With a couple whacks with a hammer, it finally dropped down.

    By the way, the brass end of what appears to be the center shaft which this planetary rotates, is in fact, just a brass fitting and not the end of the shaft itself. I thought I could wedge the screwdrivers between the planetary and housing, then hit the shaft end with a mini ball pin hammer. Bad idea. All I did was dent the fitting. No structural damage, but maybe I can save someone from making the same mistake.

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