Question about AMD Athlon 64 4000+, 2.4 GHz (ADA4000DEP5AS) OEM / Unboxed Processor

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Hello Wolrd Hey WV can I borrow your attention for a minute in the lounge?  @ I remember you mentioned that you had a AMD cpu, maybe you have the answer to my problem. Thanks, appriciate it!

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  • Ekse Nov 18, 2008

    I think I nailed the problem on the 125W power requirement of the 9950, I've been thinking of upgrading my 6000+ to a phenom for a while now, heard about the problems with the phenoms when they came out, seems they are fixed in the 9x50 versions of the cpus. I think the 9650 will be a great upgrade, probably the best and newest cpu I can get for this board, next time I've have to buy another board. Pretty good and cheap cpu upgrade, selling my old 6000+ for around 100 and getting the phenom for around 177 that includes 20 in fast shipping, should have it tomorrow or at least before friday. The Am2+ support on the board is confusing, I'm still not completely sure if the 9950 would or wouldn't have worked on it. Well Id prefer not to have a cpu that doesn't run on my board and then return it and wait for a replacement.

    Hopefully with no problems, already upgraded my bios a month or two ago

    that's a nice little kit you got there, pretty cheap also. SSD would seem like a good speed upgrade, faster loading times for os and other small programs might be a interesting experiment to look into.


  • Ekse Feb 11, 2009

    I just wrote you a reply but it didn't show up.

  • Ekse Feb 11, 2009

    did you get the reply I wrote? I don't know I don't see it here.

  • Ekse Feb 11, 2009

    Thats what I used. I have to write you later, got to go..

  • Ekse Feb 11, 2009

    Hey again Vet.

    I didn't like windows 7 much, to me it looked just like windows vista with improved taskbar. I wasn't a big vista fan. And I'm happy with xp right now.

    No I haven't upgraded to phenom II yet I think I will just use my current system, afterall its all that I could possibly need right now, 3 screens, great remote support software etc. Ok video card for some medium gaming etc television.. I got it all on this system. Proud of it.

    I didn't test windows 7 extensively, just a quick test run. Takes too much space etc. I don't know why would I run that operating system when xp does the same job better and with less, in my personal opinion.

    Lately I've been playing Call of duty 4, call of duty 5 World at War and World In Conflict. The last is a cheap good game which I mainly play online now and then.

    Haven't tried far cry 2 yet, heard its alot of driving around mainly. Fear 2, yeah I heard its out but haven't even finished the first version.

    Haven't been playing much lately. I will be off to Army in about a year, Have to get in shape for it.

    now I copy pasted this into a notepad in case it doesn't register.


  • Ekse Mar 01, 2009

    Hey, hows it going wv?

    I think I've finaly figured out the ram problem with my motherboard.

    I just removed my 2nd 8600GT (512mb) I now have more of my 8gb ram memory available. Seems like the max for this board is 8GB and that may include video card memory? Now I'm not competely fimiliar how the motherboard works with the ram in this case and what would couse this.

    I wonder If I swapped my other 512mb card to a 64 mb card or a 1024mb card how the useable ram amount would change.


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Read your own notes to yourself. I was just looking this over for my board today as well. I have an Asus M2NB. My board is not AM2+ and I checked the bios updates that were not all that specific, just said support updated CPUs. As I recall reading when I bought this MB on sale for $85US, as a gamble, it was supposed to be future compatible with AM2; but AM2+ was not in the cards back then but the socket was supposed to support the Phenom CPU. For what I spent I was willing to dump the MB for something else, I was interested in a good solid business MB in the lower price range. It had onboard Nvidia GeForce 6000 on the PCIe bus. The experiment was worthwhile, just not going to be my gaming platform.

That onboard chip never liked the memory I put in which was matched Corsair 6400s. As I followed this MB board over the months the RAM specs suggested by Asus changed continually until the RAM I bought off the Asus advisory was completely off the list.

I'm going to dump the board and put it in the wife's new PC for Christmas.

I was just over at today looking over this 2.5inch external USB SSD adapter kit, that can also accept a 2.5 mechanical drive in SATA 3.0 only. As I work on a lot of laptops too, and backup the drive image of a laptop before doing anything, I currently have a 2.5 mechanical PATA adapter in a 5.25 bay. This unit I'm talking about is offered by Crucial for $30US. Their 65Gig SDD drive is 399 now, which is cool for those backups a mission critical business needs. But, I'm just looking to backup laptop drives, SDD and SATA 3.0 as these become more prevalent in my area. I also noticed that under the Lexar brand, Crucial is selling a 16GB SSD for the Express Card slot for only 60US. That drive comes with what looks like promising backup software.

Good luck with your new rig.

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  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Feb 10, 2009

    I figured out the other day that by looking up Buddy Talk between experts that were rated are listed in our vote listings and then we can continue with an old thread to add new comments and bypass the new restrictions.

    I was wondering how you made out with Windows7 and if you downloaded the 64bit version?

    Also, have you put a Phenom II CPU in a board yet? I'm about to do this myself and wanted to hear your take on the experience.

    I'm pretty certain that there are not too many programs out there capable to utilizing four cores except perhaps Windows7. Have you watched core demand if you have a Phenom in a board and witnessed either the OS dividing duty or a program specifically using all cores for load balancing? More likely a game would take advantage of this before a utility program would I suppose. What games are you running right now.

    I've got Far Cry 2 but haven't put it on a box yet. I see Fear 2 is out and I'll spend the money for that when my FixYa check arrives.



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    Glenn Rogers Feb 11, 2009

    I received the comment. Post again, but use the comment only. Thanks.

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    Glenn Rogers Feb 11, 2009

    Your brief sentence came through that time.

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    Glenn Rogers Feb 11, 2009

    Got your full comment okay this time.

    On Windows7, that's much of what the blogs say, it has a large footprint. I've read about the new taskbar and expect that some tweak package will come out that allows you to alter that. That's the problem with design by committee and competition of committees at MS. We end up with useless UI improvements.

    I downloaded the 64bit edition since this will be the main platform retailers push, such as Dell, HP and the others. What the blogs have stated is that device support is superior to Vista which is good. But, so much was renamed in the control panel and reorganized I can't see us not being familiar with it.

    I'll probably go with the Phenom II with 6MB Level 3 Cache that's the most flexible for overclocking. I like to test the actual limits of these things and know first hand what is reasonable and when ti starts to break down. Most of the boards I've looked over that have performance oriented configurations limit RAM to 8 GB which is fine by me, but I'll never load four GPU cards at a time.

    I've never had tha biggest baddest latest GPU cards, ever. Those are for idiots in my opinion. I like the Radeon 4000 series card on a AMD chipset. IT fails on a Nvidia chipset. I've ordered a 9400 GO 1GB card (DDR2) for the dual core 5200 with Nvidia chipset. That's for the old lady who doesn't play games but does extensive photo editing, so those load times and processing times are important and this card will do that and play Far Cry2 at full screen anti aliasing as well, so long as the board, CPU and RAM are in the Best Range.

    I've played FEAR through about 5 or 6 times because its not exactly linear. Sure, you get from here to there, but like Half LIfe 2, you can do different things differently and have better action and entertainment. Same thing with Far Cry, there were so many ways to take on the challenge that I've still not exhausted all the paths through that game. I just found the End Boss challenge boring.

    See ya, later.

  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Mar 02, 2009

    What a great question. If you have an onboard display adapter that shares video ram with stick ram that's disabled, then it is possible the video ram from your cards could add to the total onboard memory.

    If your board does not have an onboard vga with shared memory, I suppose that is also possible but should be an OS issue vs mboard as I see it.

    As you know, in theory we should be able to put 128GB of RAM on these boards.

    BTW, the GeForce card I got was a 9400GT with 1GB DDR2 RAM built by Sparkle. I installed the reference drivers and its pretty sweet. Haven't had the time to install and play Far Cry 2 yet and up all the video settings but another user has and gets great frame rates. Been swamped her with business and commitments, but that's almost over once I brief our county government on a video security system I'll install at the airport. I get helpers from Public Works to help and I don't have to hire my own. That's pretty sweet. They just impossed a cieling on my fee, which is okay. The idea is to get jobs under the belt for County Government in the States here. Once you're in you're in.


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