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Gas does not stay on.

My heater runs successfully through the sequence of operations but when the gas ignites it immediately shuts the valve. My flame sensor has been replaced and I recently replaced the control board.

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The unit uses "flame rectification" (basically it is sensing a pulsing dc current) to sense the flame and is very sensitive to bad/poor ground and also to a dirty flame sensor. The gas ignition does not shut off the valve ...the board is not sensing the current thru the flame so its reading a "no Fire" fault and shutting down.

Clean the flame sensor with sandpaper till its brite and shiny and check all connections to make sure they are tight and very clean, especially the ground to the board and also to the furnace itself (sometimes we have to actually drive a ground rod near the furnace itself or use some other means to make sure that a proper gorund is achieved).

If still have a problem; I would try another board, the flame sensor is just a piece of solid stainless alloy wire so its really not necessary to change it unless the ceramic insulator is cracked.

Before you buy another board, I would suggest that you have a pro look at it.

Posted on Nov 16, 2008

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