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Thread looping underneath quilt

Top looks fine, but underneath looks like a rat's nest. Is it the needle not turned to the right or is there something I am just missing altogether. I am really lost with this and frustrated beyond belief. Any help would be appreciated. I have the Juki tl98 mounted on a bee line quilting frame and have had very little success. Please help!!!

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Your problem is the top thread. Make sure you lift the presser lever BEFORE you thread the machine. After threading the machine, just before you thread the needle, lower the presser foot, and test the top tension by pulling down on the thead. If there is little or no tension, adjust the top tension to a higher number, say from 3 to 5, or from 5 to 7, and test the tension again. If you fail to increase the tension by above procedure, look for cotton that might be stuck in the tension blades and remove it. Hope this will help you

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