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Cannot install win 2k or win xp xp on biostar m7ncg 400 v7.2 mobo

Win 98 and win me install and works great but no matter what I do 2k and xp will not install

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  • dewasu1803 Nov 10, 2008

    the machine is custom built. the motherboard is a biostar m7ncg 400 ver7.2. the processor is amd athlon xp 2500 333mhz. the ram is ddr 2700 512mb. the hard drive is 20 gig.

  • dewasu1803 Nov 11, 2008

    Hi Mike

    Thank you so much for your response.

    I did everything you suggested and it did not help, also I tried different hard drives, cables, cd rom drives, and floppy drives along with your suggestions and it also did not help. I also used the same hard drive with a different motherboard and xp installed just fine. Could there be something wrong with the motherboard?

    dewasu1803

  • dewasu1803 Nov 12, 2008

    Hi frcs68

    Thank you for your response.

    I have the cd that came with the motherboard however I don't know how to use it unless I get win xp to install.

    dewasu1803

  • dewasu1803 Nov 12, 2008

    Hi again Mike,

    I downloaded the bios update you mentioned however it is an application and I can't use it unless I install win xp. I tried using it through win me but that didn't workout. The hard drive is listed in the bios and the boot order the same no matter what hard drive I try. I even tried to install xp on the fat 32 file system but I can't get far enough to format the drive. One thing I haven't tried is to format the hard drive on a different computer then try to install xp on the biostar motherboard. What do you think?

    dewasu1803

  • dewasu1803 Nov 13, 2008

    Hi Mike,

    Thank you, I went to devhardware.com as you suggested and got educated about bios flashing. I don't know, maybe this is over my head, but it seems like I can't update the bios without an install of win xp. The newest update on biostar's website containes the update files but I don't know which files I need to put on a floppy disk. If I had that information I think that would be all I need to flash the bios with a floppy disk. It looks like I am in a catch 22 situation. I contacted the biostar support group and the only answer they had was to send the motherboard to them for repair and the cost would be much greater than a replacement board.

    dewasu1803

  • dewasu1803 Nov 13, 2008

    Thanks Mike,

    I checked with the biostar support group again and they said the cost would be $15.00 to update my bios if I send them my bios chip. It is not soldered to the board.

    dewasu1803

  • Frank
    Frank May 11, 2010

    what is the make and model of the machine and how old?

    how much memories?

    what is size of the hard drive?

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Use the CD that came with the motherboard. do a setup and configure the motherboard. you need to update the Chipset software in order for the motherboard to recognize the hard drive header.

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Hi dewasu1803,
seems like a hard drive issue. (Unless you received an error message from the system during setup of 2k or XP)? (Also hope its a certified Window CD & not a copy).
Here are two ways to get around this. The fastest is to use a software program to clean the hard disk drive. Best software I have come across it Boot & Nuke. Download from this site; http://www.dban.org/download (Darik's Boot and Nuke 1.0.7 ).

On the other hand, its suggested you go to the hard disk drives manufactures web site & download their utility software which will allow you to create a bootable floppy disk too. Boot the system to the floppy. If there is an issue with the drive the floppy software will repair it. If there is a problem with either the MBR or FAT it will also fix it. You'll also be able to setup the type of file system, NTFS or FAT32, ECT. If you include the manufacture & model number of the 120GB drive I'll include the web site for downloading.

For Seagate & Maxtor go here; http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/

Western Digital start here: http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?lang=en

If you did receive an error message while attempting to install, post the message here!

Good luck dewasu1803!
Mike

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    Mike Peluso Nov 11, 2008

    Hi dewasu1803, considering everything you tried in your reply there can only be two items left to check. One would be to update the bios. There is a recent up date posted on Biostar's web site.

    Date: 2008-10-29. Biostar does not state what the update is for. You have nothing to loose.

    http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/b...



    I have to admit it sounds nuts that two other operating systems did install, 98 & ME. That speaks volumes.

    There can not be an issue with the board. If there is a problem no operating system would install.

    The only difference between XP & 98 is the FAT. Win 98 used a FAT32 & Win XP uses NTFS.

    Check your current bios. Make sure your 20GB drive is listed in the bios & listed in the boot order.

    Since XP installed onto the 20GB drive while in another system I guess your left with just the board.

    This is one of those times I'd love to have the MB in front of me.



    Mike

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Nov 12, 2008

    Hello dewasu1803,

    I know you have the CD for the Biostar motherboard? On that CD is the flash utility needed to flash the bios. The flash program should run from a floppy disk. Though I did notice it will also run in a working Win XP system. (& you can't get into a working XP).

    The bios file you download will run from a floppy but it has to be configured just right. To save me from typing a long explanation & instruction's of how to. Suggest you read through this link. It includes pictures & instructions. Read through the links, there’s like 3 or 4 pages.

    http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Hardware-...

    You'll be able to put together the right files needed to make a floppy disk & flash the bios.



    dewasu1803, if you find this method a bit too much, you can call Biostar & request the latest bios be mailed to you. (If your bios is not soldered to the board). The average price for a new updated bios is $5.00 US. Maybe $2.00 shipping.




    Keep me updated.

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Nov 13, 2008

    Hi dewasu1803, glad you got back. I went over all the bios files with the bios download & could not find the standard, *.bin files needed for a floppy drive flash. Biostar's offer to repair the board is bull.

    Did you ask for a new updated bios chip only?

    Well there is nothing either of us can do at this point, other than replace the MB with a better board that will take all of your current devices. Memory, CPU ECT.

    (Suggest you not buy another Biostar or an Abit boards either).

    Personally I like Asus MB's. New they carry a 3 year warranty. Even used Asus MB's maintain there 3 year warranty. So if you bought a two year old board there's still 1 year left on the warranty.

    (Food for thought).

    Sorry, dewasu1803 I believe we checked all that was possible. Thanks for hanging in there! Pc trouble shooting can be fruitless even when productive.

    I also check the web to see if there was any other manufacture who may have produced a simuliar board, m7ncg 400 but every hit came up with Biostar. Next I searched for matching chipset (NVIDIA nForce2) boards. Try this link if you decide to replace your board;

    http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&...

    There are a few Asus boards listed that should support all your devices in your current system.



    Good luck dewasu1803!

    Yes, I tried but if you still feel my help was not helpful at all leave your vote as is.

    On the other hand if you feel I did help in any fashion please correct you vote.

    Mike







  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Nov 14, 2008

    Hi dewasu1803, $15.00 is over kill. I guess it's better than spending $149.00 plus shipping for:

    http://microsource-store.stores.yahoo.ne...



    The other NVIDIA nForce2 boards carry a 90 day warranty. No touch! Some links are bad & the couple that seem good were not good. Including chipmax whos warranty stays with chipmax.

    I should have checked every link myself.



    Mike

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