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Furnace shutdown have interthern heat/air unit , last spring it started shutting down and blowing out the pilot. had a serviceman out couldn't find anything wrong said the firebox looked ok but needed a new unit. later i found out if i leave the front cover off the furnace ran just fine . had two servicemen look at it & couldn't find anything wrong , big bucks for nothing , HELP! TB

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If it runs with the front cover off.....it sounds like an air problem.Is this a 90% efficient unit?If so,it sounds like one of the plastic flue pipes is restricted.

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