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Water leaking from filter area of Miele W427 washing machine. Machine empties OK, most water is discharged as normal however, approx 1-2 ltrs leaks from filter area. The filter is clean and no blockage can be discerned once filter is removed. Tried the Just Answer website, they took my money and never responded, can you do any better? Rehards simon.chapman@btinternet.com

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  • balladacfe Nov 09, 2008

    First response doesn't address actual problem. repeat problem: Water leaking from filter area of Miele W427 washing machine. Machine empties OK, most water is discharged as normal however, approx 1-2 ltrs leaks from filter area. The filter is clean and no blockage can be discerned once filter is removed. Note leak from filter area where there is no washer.

  • balladacfe Nov 09, 2008

    further detail. Following completion of wash cycle, there is a pool of water on the floor. Also, when opening the filter area a build of water is released. This would suggest a blockage however, the volume of water spilled is only a fraction of what the machine will have used, suggesting only a part blockage if at all. Also, by inseryting finger into escape and hose no bloackage can be discerned.

  • balladacfe Nov 10, 2008

    After a wash the majority of the water is discharged, there is a small amount which has leaked on to the floor. When removing the filter a back log of approx 2 pints of water is released. Using a screwdriver I can spin the pump accessed beyound the filter. With the filter removed and putting the machine in drain mode the pump rotates. Could it be that the pump is working, but not fully?

  • balladacfe Nov 11, 2008

    several suggestions provided and while very interesting they don't address the issue.

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I quote from you to resume your problem with your own word :

"Water leaking from filter area of Miele W427 washing machine. Machine empties OK, most water is discharged as normal however, approx 1-2 ltrs leaks from filter area. The filter is clean and no blockage".
And
" Following completion of wash cycle, there is a pool of water on the floor. Also, when opening the filter area a build of water is released."

You say the filter is ok, than there are few possibilities.

1 Since the machine leaks during the drain cycle only (that is what I understood) the most likely is a problem with the drain lines.
Teh repairman will access the inside of the machine, and inspect the drain lines to see where the leak comes from.
The drain hose can also be obstructed, you can blow some air into the drain hose to see if it is clogged.

2 The drain pump is faulty and is leaking. A faulty drain pump can leak, this can also explain the two pints of water. Again, there is the need to observe the pump and see if it is leaking. The pump is mounted on the lower side of the appliance, watching ftom the front on the right side.

3 The machines is overfilling and it is leaking some water from the main tub gasket. I do not think this is the case, but it is also a possibility.

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If the washer leaks all the time, check these:
Hot and cold water fill hoses - Check the hot and cold water hoses from the household plumbing. If either hose is leaking, tighten it or replace it, as appropriate.


Main tub seal - The main tub seal is located between the transmission and the outer tub. It's the primary water seal in the outer tub for the transmission-shaft entry point. If this seal leaks, you can see the leak by opening up the machine's main access panel while the machine is full of water with a small amount of detergent in it. The leak appears at the underside of the outer tub, at or near the center. This seal is difficult to replace. You probably should call a qualified appliance repair technician. 


Pump - If the pump leaks, you can probably spot the leak when the tub is full of water. The pump has two or more black rubber or plastic hoses attached to it and usually has a drive belt that spins the pump. If the pump is leaking, you need to replace it. 


Outer tub - Over time, the steel or plastic outer tubs can rust, split, or be punctured. If this happens, you may have to replace the entire outer tub--but that may not be an economical repair to make. Consult a qualified appliance repair technician for further details.

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You how to take the unit apart to replace a coupler, This will show you how to remove the front and both sides to expose the workings, there you will probably find a pump leaking, the tub to pump hose leaking,

Replace the air gap connecting tee
If the hose ruptures, large quantities of water could gush from the hose. If it's the hot water hose that ruptures, the gushing hot water may scald anyone nearby.

For more peace of mind, one alternative is to use high quality stainless steel fill hoses. You can find them in our Accessories section under washer/dryer. In addition, we carry the black rubber hoses supplied by the manufacturer, use our PartDetective to locate the ones for your unit. And, universal washing machine hoses, also in our accessories section.

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    mohammed marika thambi Nov 09, 2008


  • Air-gap
    device -The air gap is a small device found on most washers that
    prevents the wash water from being siphoned into the household water
    supply. It's located either mid-way along or at the end of the black
    rubber hose that comes from the water-inlet valve. Often it's made of
    translucent plastic. If one of the air-gap components deforms or
    cracks, you may need to replace it.


  • Hot and
    cold water fill hoses - Check the hot and cold water hoses from the
    household plumbing. If either hose is leaking, tighten it or replace
    it, as appropriate.



  • Main tub seal - The main tub seal
    is located between the transmission and the outer tub. It's the primary
    water seal in the outer tub for the transmission-shaft entry point. If
    this seal leaks, you can see the leak by opening up the machine's main
    access panel while the machine is full of water with a small amount of
    detergent in it. The leak appears at the underside of the outer tub, at
    or near the center. This seal is difficult to replace. You probably
    should call a qualified appliance repair technician.



  • Pump
    - If the pump leaks, you can probably spot the leak when the tub is
    full of water. The pump has two or more black rubber or plastic hoses
    attached to it and usually has a drive belt that spins the pump. If the
    pump is leaking, you need to replace it.



  • Outer tub -
    Over time, the steel or plastic outer tubs can rust, split, or be
    punctured. If this happens, you may have to replace the entire outer
    tub--but that may not be an economical repair to make. Consult a
    qualified appliance repair technician for further details.


  • mohammed marika thambi
    mohammed marika thambi Nov 11, 2008

    bottom of the machine rather than from the control panel.

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    mohammed marika thambi Nov 11, 2008

    you can probably spot the leak when the tub is
    full of water. The pump has two or more black rubber or plastic hoses
    attached to it and usually has a drive belt that spins the pump. If the
    pump is leaking, you need to replace it.

    water level in comparison to the heating element

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    I would check these first:

    • Loose bolts in the tub - tighten them. Your fill hoses might need tightening at either end.
    • A leak in the main drain hose. Inspect the entire hose and correct any problem you find.
    • Poor draining in the standpipe causes the sudsy water to back up and overflow, making it look like a washer problem when, in fact, it was a plumbing problem.
    • Main tub seal - The main tub seal is located between the transmission and the outer tub. It's the primary water seal in the outer tub for the transmission-shaft entry point. If this seal leaks, you can see the leak by opening up the machine's main access panel while the machine is full of water with a small amount of detergent in it. The leak appears at the underside of the outer tub, at or near the center. This seal is difficult to replace. You probably should call a qualified appliance repair technician.
    • Pump - If the pump leaks, you can probably spot the leak when the tub is full of water. The pump has two or more black rubber or plastic hoses attached to it and usually has a drive belt that spins the pump. If the pump is leaking, you need to replace it.
    • Outer tub - Over time, the steel or plastic outer tubs can rust, split, or be punctured. If this happens, you may have to replace the entire outer tub--but that may not be an economical repair to make. Consult a qualified appliance repair technician for further details.
    • Very restricted water flow through the valve. Low water flow will cause the water from the valve’s discharge hose to run back up the hose by capillary action and down to the floor. This is a tricky one to catch.
    Let me know how it goes..

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      Swilin Sampson Nov 10, 2008

      Yes, it could be the pump or any of the other things i mentioned. The only way to be sure is follow the steps to check which part is faulty..

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    To start try filling your machine up at the lowest level it will allow and then let it cycle. If it does not leak at that point it probably means that the machine may be over filling at some point (if this is a front load machine this will be a moot point). If overfill is not a problem then your machine is leaking internally while it discharges the water. I had a machine that did this and there was a coupling in the back interior of the machine that had to be replaced. It is definitely worth repairing or having the machine repaired since it will probably be fairly inexpensive. If you are mechanically inclined remove the back of the machine and check for leaks near and at the coupling where the drain pipes are located. Good Luck Hope this helps.

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      Lance McKinney Nov 09, 2008

      Also there sometimes can be split hoses near the coupling on the exterior of the machine that will cause water to get into the machine as well. Check both exterior and if that fails be sure to check the coupling on the interior as I described before. Good Luck!

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    Check the easy stuff first, fill hoses tight?- drain hose cracked?
    Failing those checks, cut a piece of cardboard slightly smaller than the size of your washer. Slip the cardboard under the washer and run a short load. Look carefully at the water mark on the cardboard. The mark on the cardboard the water leak will leave, will help you tell from which side or front to back the leak is common from. This will help point you in the correct direction to look for the trouble maker.

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    • mmechanics Nov 09, 2008

      read this instructions carefully


      Even if the appliance does not appear to have
      water inside the
      drum area, typically 2 quarts of water can
      still be drained from the
      appliance via the Manual Drain.
      Always have a suitable container
      ready for the water.
      1. Open the Filter Access Door.
      2. Place a
      suitable container underneath the Drain Tube.
      3. Turn the
      Filter Cap counterclockwise 2 - 3 times. Do not
      completely
      remove the filter.
      Service Tip:
      In the event the container being used becomes filled, simply
      tighten
      the filter (clockwise) to stop the water flow. And
      repeat steps 2-3
      until no more water drains from the tube.
      Once the water stops flowing…
      5. Continue
      turning the filter counterclockwise to remove.
      6. Clean out
      any foreign objects or lint from the filter.
      7. Check that
      the Drain Pump Impeller (in the back of the
      chamber)
      rotates freely by spinning with your hand.
      8.
      Remove any detergent deposits, excess water etc...
      9. Ensure
      the filter threads are clean, and place filter into position
      and secure by turning clockwise.


      and also
      You can replace the Bellows as it is called but to fix it before you replace it
      clean it with Bleach to kill the mold and then dry it ALSO after any load you do
      leave the door open a bit this allows the mach to air dry out and prevents the
      build up of mold .

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