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Saw won't start without starting fluid.

Eager ****** 2.1, Power Mac 300 series. Without starting fluid sprayed onto the air filter, saw won't even pop or burp when pulling starter. Once started, it will run ok until I 'bear down' into the wood, then it will quickly stall....from full acceleration & high rpm to stall in 3 seconds. Has new gas with proper mix, spark, correct spark gap, cleaned air filter, good fuel filter (not clogged). Even when the engine is hot, if I shut it off it won't restart without starter fluid. I have adjusted the hi and low speed mixture needles as well as the idle speed adjustment screw for long periods of time to get it to run OK only.

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Sounds like you have a compression problem. Starting fluid will fire at a much lower compression than a gas/oil mix so that's why it will start with it. When the motor is running you get a little more compression because the piston is coming up so fast. You should check the condition of your cylinder wall and piston & ring. If they are damaged at all you loose compression which directly affects starting and running power.

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All else, check the crank shaft seals. If there are leaks there, you will not have enough vacuum to pull in the fuel past the reeds.

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SOURCE: I purchased a Stihl 036 chain saw at a yard sale.

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  • Posted on Feb 13, 2010

SOURCE: Homelite Timberman chainsaw won't run anymore

Sometimes the transferred metal feels like compression.
The volume of most chainsaws is so small it makes a HUGE difference in the reading; depending on which end of the compression tester the Schrader valve is mounted (should be spark plug end). If the total cylinder volume is only 2 cubic inches and the hose adds an additional cubic inch you can see how it will impact.

FF
I recommend you join here:
ArboristSite Chainsaw thread (free to join)
http://www.arboristsite.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9
There are some threads about using acid to remove metal transfer from cylinder walls. There are some Homelite collectors. There are a bunch of good people that enjoy lending a little expertise. I am not a Homelite guy, I have done some research for Homeys and often you must buy an entire short block.

You may find this helpful too:
Homelite/Ryobi.com (authorized parts supplier)
https://www.gardnerinc.com/recons/disclaimer-lg.php - Agree; Choose “Product Line”; “Select OEM” & “Select Catalog” both to “Homelite Consumer Products”. A drop down list appears; self explanatory from here.
The numbers Homelite & Ryobi use do not match the numbers everyone posts. A careful inspection of your saw should find something that matches.

FF
your question impressed me so much I almost did not answer. It is so though and well thought I though you had been at this for a while and knew exactly what to do next and were pulling my leg. Good on you. You will be welcomed at ArboristSite. Good Luck
Lou

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  • Posted on Apr 29, 2010

SOURCE: husqvarna 51 died and wont restart

hi
if you have a good compression,a strong enough blue spark and carburetion for the fuel air mixture try priming the engine(put small amount of gas in the spark plug hole)then start the engine.If the engine runs only the gas you put inside the cilinder there is a carburetion problem to find and fix.
let me know regards savumihai71

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  • Posted on Feb 16, 2011

SOURCE: This saw will start maybe

Hi Jack, I will try to help you out. As far as the high/low screws go turn them in (clockwise) until lightly seated so no damage is done to the needles or the seats. Now turn them both out 1 turn but also remember the position so you can go back to it if you have to. That is the suggested basic adjustment. The saw should run at this setting and sometimes is bang on. If everything is OK with the carb only minor adjustments should do it. When adjusting go 1/8 turn at a time. Because of idle problems start with the low speed mixture needle. Turn out (counterclockwise) 1/8 turn and try running your saw. Do that 5 or 6 times, if no good results go back to starting position. You might try the high speed mixture needle the same way to see what happens. ( Always remember the starting position of the adjusting screw) The one thing to be careful of when adjusting the carb is not to adjust the high speed needle less than 1 turn out (counterclockwise) from a lightly seated position. The reason is you don't want to run it too lean (less gas more air) which could damage the engine because it could overheat. The gas and air mixture also helps with cooling. Try any adjustments as long as you don't go too lean.
Inside these types of carburetors there is a mesh type filter which is very, very fine, so if anything even dust gets in, this mesh will stop it, so it is something to check out, it is a common problem. You say you took the cap off the bottom, that is usually the metering side. It is critical that the diaphragms (membrane as you call it) be installed very accurately.
From what you describe you did a very good job of checking everything out, so what could be needed is a carburetor overhaul, unless it is something that is intermittent, which is a pain. I hope I have helped you out even a little. All the best and good luck.

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First you should get a new spark plug which might solve the problem. If it still won't start what I normally do with chainsaws, lawnmowers etc is to remove the spark plug and pour about 5ml (one teaspoonful) of fuel into the opening. Dip the spark end of the plug into fuel so the spark gap is wet and replace the plug in the saw. Try starting it now. The fuel you poured in should ignite and may be enough to start the saw. You may have to repeat the process 2 to 3 times. Don't be tempted to use more than 5 ml of fuel or you'll flood the saw.

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Assuming you have the right oil-gas mixture and a fresh batch of gas, and you didn't leave old gas in the saw all summer long since last November.

-Take off the dirty air filter and see if saw starts without filter. Do not run without putting in new filter.
-Check exhaust port for mud dobber home or screen clogged with carbon and dirt
-See if saw fires up after squirting WD-40 directly into carburetor
-Check gas line >>> pull gas line loose and see if gas flows out of tank to carburetor
-Take out spark plug > put finger over spark hole and pull cord >> do you feel suction that says you got compression?
-Put spark wire back on spark plug >>> hold spark plug so threads touch bare metal part of spark plug hole >>> pull starter cord and see if spark shows between plug and saw >>> suggest you not hold metal part of spark plug while pulling cord [you'll understand why]
-If spark plug shows spark, then your saw has spark ... so put in new plug and start fresh.

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