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Not an IDE HDD Computer Cable

While removing the HDD I inadvertently tore the ribbon that connects the 40 pin IDE adaptor...where can I find another? I posted this yesterday and Guru said to use a computer cable, this is not a standard 40 pin IDE computer cable but a special thin ribbon type cable that connects to a IDE HDD adaptor...

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Ok, I have seen some recorders that do use IDE cables, but sorry about that. I saw this model listed at http://www.partstore.com but I did not see the cable. I bet if you call them at 1-866-925-PART, they can get it for you. Good Luck and sorry about the misunderstanding. Ps Please dont forget to rate this thread.

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Why is this Win7 Ultimate x86 PC showing an error 80-pin Connector not found and boots only into win7 RE recovery mode?


The PATA interface was originally designed as a 40-pin system and still is. The ribbon cables were originally 40-wire cables. A special type of cable with 80 wires was then created to improve data throughput rates. Note that the number of pins remains 40, with a special type of ribbon connector connecting ground to 40 wires internally. The ground connections are placed between each of the data carriers to reduce cross-talk and allow up to 3 times faster operation. ATA33 is supported by 40-wire connection, ATA66 & ATA100 require 80-wire. Motherboards can check the speed of the data throughput to determine if a 80-pin cable is being used. Some BIOS setup options allow for this feature to be turned off. The HDD or DVD must support ATA66 or higher to work at the higher speed of a 80-wire cable.If you connect a slow hard disk or DVD drive on the same ribbon as a fast hard disk then the system will default to the slower speed. You also need to make sure the master and slave are connected to the correct connectors on the cable.
Firstly try each drive separately to see if the 80-pin error goes away.
Rather than master/slave on one cable, try each hard drive as a master on separate cables (IDE1 & IDE2).
Secondly, the boot partition may have corrupt data preventing boot. You should check both hard drives for errors by connecting to another PC if possible. This would also allow you to back up any important files so that you can re-install the operating system if required.

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Wont see slave Hard Drive in a Dell Dimension 2400


Did you set the Master harddrive as master?

Or is your reference that you set the jumper cap, on the jumper pins; of both harddrives to Cable Select?

What are the manufacturer names, and model numbers of the two harddrives?

If you just see something like - WD2500JB, that will work.

How many wire is the Flat IDE ribbon cable?

There are 40 wire versions, and 80 wire versions.

Notice I stated - Wire.
They will both have 39 socket holes that are used.
(40 socket holes, with 1 blocked off)

80 wire IDE ribbon cable has Master harddrive in middle.
Slave harddrive at end of cable.
Little weird, huh?

40 wire IDE ribbon cable, has Master harddrive at end of cable, Slave in middle.


As for, "Computer will not see it."

Not trying to insult your intelligence. Am trying to see if we are both on the same page.............

1) You go to My Computer, and there is no drive letter assigned to that harddrive you just installed?

If it is there, you double-click on it to open that harddrive.

Please post back in a Comment.
Regards,
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D945gtp how to connect cd-rom hardware


1) IDE {PATA} DVD burner drive:

For an IDE { PATA } DVD burner, connect to the 40-pin IDE header on the motherboard. This is located to the right side of the Ram Memory slots.
It is the longer header that has 40 contact pins. {39 actually}

( The shorter connector on the motherboard is for a Floppy Drive.
{34 pins} It is above the IDE 40-pin connector )

NOTE*
The IDE connector on the motherboard should be keyed. Should have a cutout on one side. This is so the Number 1 pin in the flat IDE ribbon cable, will line up with Number 1 pin in the motherboard connector.

Some flat IDE ribbon cables, do not have a Locating Lug on the connector. (Small rectangular 'bump')

Number 1 pin on the IDE ribbon cable will be on the side that has a faint RED stripe on it.

Number 1 pin in the motherboard connector is at the Bottom, with the motherboard installed.

The side of the flat ribbon IDE cable that has the faint red stripe on it, goes DOWN, when installed in the motherboard connector.

If the DVD drive does not have a cutout for it's circuit board, the faint red stripe of the flat ribbon IDE cable, goes towards the power cable connection.

2) SATA DVD burner drive:
You have 4 Serial ATA headers (Connectors) on the motherboard.
Your SATA harddrive should be plugged into the SATA1 header.

You can choose any open available SATA header, to plug your SATA DVD burner drive into.
BIOS will see it once you turn the computer on.

3) If you somehow have been using an IDE {PATA} harddrive, and have it connected to your IDE connector on the motherboard, you SHOULD not use a DVD drive on that flat IDE ribbon cable, also.

BIOS has to find which device has the Operating System on it, (Windows), and then hand the computer over to the Operating System.

To state again, BIOS will look at both devices connected to that flat ribbon cable. The Harddrive, and the DVD drive.
It will then determine that the Harddrive, is the device that has Windows on it, not the DVD drive.

This slows the computer down, and could result in a blue screen.

If you have an IDE harddrive plugged into the motherboard, it would be best to use a SATA DVD drive.


For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

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My Tiny 755C10 laptop has 44 pins slot and standard ide hdd has 47 pins. what can I do to fix it?


Standard IDE (PATA) HDD connection is 44 pins for a laptop.

(40-pins for a desktop IDE harddrive. Only 39 are used, though. One pin is removed)

http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/disk-pinout.htm

What manufacturer, and model of HDD, do you have that has 47 pins?
(48 with one pin removed?)

http://pinouts.ru/HD/Ata44Internal_pinout.shtml

SO, the question is,....what is that 47-pin Harddrive?

Post back in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jan 28, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Hi . I have trouble with Dell optiplex GX280 . In the PATA I have two devices . DVD and HD . Both set with jumper . DVD as Slave and HDD as Master ....But the install os cannot detect HDD . where is...


I don't know where the trouble is without more information.
Some tips/information I will list, however,

1) The master harddrive that came with the computer, and has the operating system on it, is a SATA unit.

Therefore any harddrive installed along with it has to be installed as a Slave drive.

BIOS will look for the harddrive with the operating system on it. This harddrive has to be set as a Master drive. (Primary Drive in BIOS)

Installing a harddrive that is a PATA (IDE) unit, AND a PATA optical drive on the same flat ribbon cable, has to be done accordingly;

A) It depends on what flat ribbon cable you have.
There is a 40 wire cable with a 40 pin connector. (39 actually. One socket hole is not used)

There is an 80 wire cable with a 40 pin connector. (39 actually)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA#IDE_and_ATA-1

Proper method of connecting,

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

2) Proper method of using jumpers on an IDE (PATA) harddrive, and connecting the flat ribbon cable,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E


Regards,
joecoolvette

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Hello I have a T2682 and I have taken this computer apart many times and I just got back from Afghanistan and just wanted to see if I could get it going one last time but I forgot what wires plug in where...


The beep you hear is a BIOS Beep Code. The computer's method of informing you something is wrong, and the area to look into for it.

The code is similar to what you may be used to.
(Afghanistan, Army? If so, hello brother/sister. 1st Cav, 13th Sig. Corp)

The BIOS Beep Code is similar to a Morse Code.

Examples:
Two short beeps followed by a long beep, a pause of silence, then the pattern repeats, over, and over.

One short beep indicates everything is okay.
This is an indication that BIOS has concluded the Ram Memory count, and everything is 5 By.

According to my sources, the eMachines T2682 desktop computer uses an Imperial GV motherboard model, made by TriGem.

The front plastic cover of your computer is the Front Panel.
The area on the motherboard that the cables, (Wires), attach to on the motherboard, is the Front Panel header.

This is the Front panel header pinout, for the TriGem Imperial GV motherboard,

http://www.e4allupgraders.info/dir1/ecase/support/front_panel_support.shtml

On this page I would like you to scroll down to the heading -
Imperial GV Front Panel Motherboard Pinouts

Looking at the pinout;

1) Pin 1 is Not used. NC = No Connection

2) Pins 2 and 3 are for the Power On LED light
[Light Emitting Diode]

Pin 2 is for the Ground wire. (GND) ( - )
Pin 3 is for the LED light power wire. ( + )

3) Pin 4 is not used. NC

4) Pins 5 and 6 are for the Harddrive Activity light. (LED)
HDD is HarDDrive

Pin 5 is for the LED power wire
Pin 6 is for the HarDDrive signal wire
(If after attaching the wires the HDD LED light is dim, reverse the wires)

5) Pins 7 and 8 are for the Power On switch.
Pin 7 is for the Ground wire.

Attaching the Peripheral cables;

1) You have an IDE harddrive. Uses a 40-pin IDE ribbon cable.
(39 actually. One pinhole is blocked off)

There is a Locating Tab on one side of the IDE ribbon cable's connector.

To wit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics

Left-click on the blue IDE connector in the photo to the upper right.
At the top middle of the connector you will see two ridges.
This is the Locating Lug.

Now left-click on the IDE connector on the motherboard, shown in the photo to the upper right.
(To the right of the blue IDE connector)

Looking at the blue IDE connector on the motherboard, you will note there is a cutout on one side of the connector.
This is a Locating Slot.

Lining the Locating Lug up to the Locating Slot, puts the pins of the IDE ribbon cable's connector, in the correct position for the pinholes in the motherboard's IDE connector.

IF, your ribbon cable's connector does Not have a Locating Lug;

Look at the outside edge of the ribbon cable. You should see a faint Red stripe.
The Red stripe is always next to Pin 1.

Next to the motherboard's IDE connector should be a printout.
It will state PRI 1, (Stands for Primary 1), or IDE 1.
This is for the Harddrive.

[ If you see PRI 2, or SEC, (Secondary), this is for the optical drive.
(CD/DVD drive). Using this information, you will know the other IDE connector on the motherboard is for the Harddrive ]

That printout is always next to where Pin 1 is.
Therefore on the motherboard, the side of the IDE ribbon cable that has a Red stripe, will go next to the printout.

If your harddrive does not have a Locating Slot on it's IDE connector, Pin 1 is always towards the 4-pin IDE power pins.

To wit:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

The above is a webpage from Playtool.com, discussing the various power cables used in a PC, and more specifically the standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable.

I linked it to show you a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable, plugged into an IDE harddrive.

(A Peripheral power cable's connector, has been misnomered as a Molex connector, repeatedly through the years.
This was the name given to the first connector of this design.
It's kind of like referring to an adjustable open-end wrench, as a Crescent wrench )

Here in the photo of the rear view of an IDE harddrive, (Photo to the far left), you will see the 4 power pins.

To the left of the power pins are the Jumper pins.
To the left of the jumper pins, is the IDE interface for the 40-pin IDE ribbon cable.

The Red stripe of the IDE ribbon cable goes towards those 4 power pins.

To be continued in an additional comment.

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How do i install a used hard drive into an eMachines T2341? The hard drive still has information on it. do i set it as master, slave, or cable select? hard drive is an IBM 10.1 gb


There are two possible solutions depending on how your desktop is setup.
#1 install the 2nd hard drive and put jumper to CABLE SELECT. When you start the computer it should now appear in the bios as a SLAVE or 2nd hard drive. If not go to #2 below
#2 Turn system off again and change jumper on 2nd hard drive to SLAVE.
Now when your computer restarts it will appear in your bios correctly as the 2nd drive/SLAVE.
Do not make it "MASTER" or you will be trying to boot up to this drive and it may not work as you planned.

FYI: "Cable Select" means the hard drive determines which one is Master and which one is Slave by where it is on the data cable.

Good Luck

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I have a gateway solo 2500and missing something


Are you talking about the hard drive? If so, some have a ribbon cable, they are referred to as IDE cables or ATA, you can get one at any computer store. To check to see if this is the cable you need, look on the hard drive, there should be one slot with 40 pins, and another smaller slot with 8 or so pins and another with 4 large pins. If it has the 40 pin slot, it uses the IDE cable, the larger 4 pins are where you hook up the power cable from the power supply. If you dont see the 40 pin, you may see two straight black bars, with a small 90 degree bend at the end of them, that would be a sata cable that you would need.

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Not complete product...need to buy additional adapter for IDE to SATA power source.
IDE drive will have to have the power source hooked up as well as the adaptor hooked up.
Installing the adaptor only will not work. Your computer should have the 4 pin plug for the power to the IDE drive, other wise you will have to buy another adaptor.

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Its a Hard drive. Why not see how long you need one and go to a puter store and get a replacement Hdd cable. Does not have to be a ribbon cable. Good Luck Please do not forget to rate this thread.

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