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Reply to Sparks coming out of the DC pin when battery was getting low

Thanks for getting back. Since I wrote my question I learned that the DC pin or where I plug in the electrical cord is part of the mother board. So even though the
adapter is broken off internally I am told I have to replace
the whole mother board and that runs big time dollars.
The computer works fine when it runs just on the battery.
But the battery is now drained and needs some juice.

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  • lawner Nov 09, 2008

    Thanks for your advise and help. I learned that the motherboard is ok it just requires the DC pin to be resoldered to the board. I have knowledge how to solder small items and worked with a soldering gun before. Just dont know whether it would be a hassle for me to take the laptop apart to get to the area that needs to be soldered.

  • lawner Nov 11, 2008

    Thanks for the descriptive suggestion. Even though I have experience soldering things and taking things apart the risk in taking apart a laptop for the first time may be too high and it would be best to have one who has more experience to open the laptop and to perform the soldering job. I will call it an insurance policy. If I mess up I may lose everything or run into more expensives.

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Too bad can't help you out with the motherboard man! guess you'll have to find a way to charge your battery.

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  • cpenny29 Nov 11, 2008

    well, in disassembling laptops, you need to take extra careful.
    depending on the make, you can try removing the plastic cover on top of the keyboard area. keep in mind that these plastic that covers the whole laptop are clipped together so there are no screws so be careful not to break it.once you've removed it you will see the screws that holds the keyboard so you need to unscrew that and gently lift the keyboard slowly and you will see a ribbon cable attached to the keyboard and to the motherboard. detach that cable and remove your keyboard completely and set aside.from there you can check if you can see the adapter terminals.
    Good Luck to you! (you'll need it!)


  • cpenny29 Nov 12, 2008

    well, i'm glad you took that into consideration!
    good luck in your laptop!
    just remember, we're here to help!


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